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Michaela Light 0:00
Welcome back to the show. I'm here with Nicky cote from Petra Nanda and her in the house in Cusco, Peru. And we're going to be talking about the New Earth and entrepreneurial growth and joy, how you might be missing out on getting your business to grow more easily and to be more healthy and happier. Welcome, Nikki.
Niki Coate 0:22
Hi, thanks for Kayla, thank you for inviting me to the show. Yeah,
Michaela Light 0:27
excited to have you on here and to help all the entrepreneurs listening now they can understand this kind of unusual concept they may not have come across before so and how practically it could help them in their life and their business. For those of you who don't know, Nikki, she's the founder of the patch Ananda school and retreat center and healing house in Cusco, Peru. She's originally from I believe, Illinois, in the United States. Yeah. And she's a Reiki Master and a yoga teacher and a dance instructor and does all kinds of creative and spiritual things. She also does energy healing. And she has been studying, you know, personal growth and philosophy and healing for many days. In her copious spare time. She is a singer and songwriter. So, welcome. Thank you. So I, yeah. So I think we should start with a question maybe on some of the listeners' minds is like, why is this newer thing so important right now.
Niki Coate 1:32
Right now we're undergoing an unprecedented evolutionary leap on the planet. And the more that we can tune into it and consciously choose it, the more we can get on the train with it. So for both our lives and our businesses, it's a key piece to be understanding the shift in energy to empower ourselves and create the lives that we're looking for.
Michaela Light 1:55
So if we get on this train of New Earth energy, what would that practically look like for someone listening?
Niki Coate 2:03
Yeah, one of the big pieces is it's allowing us to align more deeply with our truths. And from that place to remove the blocks, most of them have been subconscious remove, remove the blocks that have been in place that keep us from experiencing the life experiencing the life that we crave, experiencing the relationships that we crave, and experiencing our businesses as we desire.
Michaela Light 2:27
What might be an example of such a block that someone listening might have?
Niki Coate 2:32
Yeah, a lot of us have blocks around prosperity, right? A lot of us have blocks around prosperity or support or having enough, right, so I call the remedy energy is plenty and the blocked energy is lack. And so a lot of us have experiences where we're holding ourselves back from receiving plenty in our lives and our businesses, because of the subconscious and energetic blocks that come out of what I call the old paradigm. And we're moving into the new earth, which is the new paradigm where we can start to receive more vastly. Yeah.
Michaela Light 3:06
So how that might look for someone listening is maybe they're short of money and income in their business, maybe they're short of time, maybe their health isn't as good as they want it to be. They have various ways that they manifest lack in their life business, because of the patterns, they haven't cleared the blocks that are in no way. Exactly. And then if they align with this new Earth energy, which we'll talk about exactly what you mean by that later in the show, but if they align with that, then they can have flow and ease in that business and life. And, you know, not have to struggle so much. Yeah,
Niki Coate 3:46
exactly. Yeah, it's like the blocks are creating these patterns, like you said, of how we show up. So when something comes up, like a potential challenge, it looks like maybe we don't have the income we were hoping for this month, or we don't have whatever we were hoping for. And then our patterns cause us to respond to those blocks in old paradigm ways. there ways that we don't want to be in there, they don't feel good. And they aren't creating the abundance that we desire, right? So it comes with these steps of recognizing the blocks and then reprogramming our reactions and really simple ways. And that's the cool thing about all of this. It's very simple to start to step into the new earth. It's every day in every moment.
Michaela Light 4:31
Yeah, and we'll go through a list of tips at the end of the show on how you practically can do this at the moment. Yeah. So So if someone's having this they may be like, well, that's how business is supposed to be. I mean, every you know, elder entrepreneur I know seems to struggle with that business have to work long as they don't get always get the income they want. So you know, is this Isn't that normal, you're supposed to work hard and struggle?
Niki Coate 5:04
Well, it's normal in the old paradigm, right. And what I'm bringing to the table in this idea of the New Earth that so many people are also receiving I'm not alone in this is that there's a new model that wants to come through for us that is more harmonious than is, is more uplifting is more based in joy and freedom, that the new model is that sufferings out joy are in Yeah, we're still going to have challenges and compression, it's the compression helps us expand, right. But it's our way of showing up for those pieces of those challenges. It's our way of meeting them with curiosity and enthusiasm and trust, right, so that we can live the lives we want. So many of us I'm an entrepreneur tour, as you guys know. And so many of us are living lives that say, Yeah, I'm going to do this thing this year, maybe next year, I'll get to have a longer vacation, or maybe, I won't have to work such long hours, right. And so the idea is anchoring in these big changes now that we can be entrepreneurs, we can be successful in the way that we want to experience. And we can live the lives that we want that we can bring in the plenty not only in abundance and in our business, but our lives.
Michaela Light 6:18
It sounds very exciting. So maybe you could tell us a bit more about what exactly the New Earth is in your vision. Yeah,
Niki Coate 6:26
beautiful. It is very exciting. I'm most excited about this. So I love talking about it. Yeah, the new the New Earth is this concept that has been in indigenous wisdom traditions for millennia and is also met by New Age thinkers, right. And the idea is, that there's a massive shift happening on the planet at this time, the Incan tradition. So that's where I live here in Cusco where Mikayla and I are this tradition talks about that at a certain time on the planet, there would be a new energy that arises that gives humans This is how the Incan tradition describes it, the chance to restore harmony upon the earth. So it's a collective shift. It's a frequency of energy that is coming into humanity. And we talked about the new earth, but we're talking about the new human and, and to get that into more kind of everyday terms, it's a chance for us to wake up and create the lives that we want, and to create the earth that we want. Right. So all the different indigenous wisdom traditions talk about this great time. And it's been brewing for a long time, we're talking about huge cycles of time on the earth. But the exciting thing is that, around the time when COVID started to shut down the earth, a massive awakening started to happen, a massive new shift in frequencies. So we've all been experiencing it, even if we aren't aware of it, no one is immune to this energy. That is disrupting the old paradigm within us and around us.
Michaela Light 8:14
I think some people try to resist this new paradigm. However, we'll talk a bit more about that later. But I noticed that some people have gone through quotes, birthing pains in the last few years, and maybe have broken through to this New Earth energy, and a more in a vibration of love and joy. And other people resist it and have pain, physical pain, mental pain, suffering depression, in some cases, suicide, you know, it's just been very challenging for some people. And so I think that's something to recognize in this though. It's been a birth process. Some other people are still stuck in the birth canal. And they're being squeezed by those incredible pressures of the birth canal.
Niki Coate 9:06
Yeah, it's, it's time.
Michaela Light 9:08
It's a very whose time, intense time,
Niki Coate 9:10
a very intense time to be alive for sure.
Michaela Light 9:14
Yeah. And then the other thing I think some people have in the back of their mind, they might be saying, haven't we heard there was all before about the 2012 transformation, and it didn't happen. What would you say to them?
Niki Coate 9:28
Yeah, I mean, the only thing, there's no logic behind this. And so in my own experience, all I can offer is what I feel inside of myself and what I see around me that we have been undergoing different evolutionary steps. And who knows what happened in 2012. These are subtle changes, right? And so this is another subtle change to what we're experiencing right now, but what I asked people to tune into is their own experience of what's happening on the planet right now. You know, think of where what's happened in your life since COVID. And the pandemic started to shut down the planet. Of course, things have shifted since then. But during the last couple of years, all of us have had different challenges arise, sometimes really big challenges. All of our subconscious patterns of lack and fear have been coming to the surface, you can see it in your own lives through relationship problems, money issues, as you said, Mikayla, people going into this night of the soul getting depressed, suicidal, all of this
Michaela Light 10:43
night, it was a dark year,
Niki Coate 10:45
right here last year, but sorry,
Michaela Light 10:49
not very long night. And so some people this, this is how I
Niki Coate 10:53
see it as evidence that there is a massive shift that's happening right now. Because it's tangible in our own lives, everything is getting shook up everybody is having experience, whether they have the context of something spiritual or not, no one is immune to what's happening on the earth. So you see it in your own life, you can probably list a dozen things that have happened in the last couple of years that have been high challenges, right. But then we see it collectively, it's not only COVID, but the race issues that came to the surface in the United States, the war, everything that's coming up is like, here's my philosophy around it is that this frequency of the New Earth is coming into our subconscious terrains, and shedding light onto the things that have been limiting us that things have been that have been just below the surface, the things that have been just out of sight that has been blocking us from creating the love and abundance and joy and freedom that we want in our own lives that we deserve. And we crave, right, and also as a collective. So we're in this together, you know, so So this evidence for me, when some big headline hits, everything I see as evidence that the there's a purging happening on the planet, we're becoming aware of these limiting plant patterns inside of ourselves, inside of our loved ones inside of the collective to as soon as you start to become aware of it, you start to become free of it. And that's where the work is. That's why it's been so challenging. It has been a challenging time. Yeah, it certainly has. But the challenge is like you said, it's the birthing pains. So humanity, we've been way out of line, we needed a wake-up call. And so all of these things, these little things in our personal lives, and in our collection are the Wake-Up Calls to help us step into the lives that we really, really desire.
Michaela Light 12:41
Well, that's a wonderful perspective and reframe that, you know, because some things, particularly in the news are particularly dire, and bad. This is a clue that things are actually getting better. You know, the pain from being squeezed in this birthing canal is really an indication there's light at the end of the tunnel, and we're coming out into a new birth into a new reality. And we're coming out of the womb of darkness. Not anything wrong with being in the womb. But you know, when babies are born, they suddenly get light and sound. louder sound or brighter light. I mean, I believe babies do see a kind of dull light inside the womb, but they have they often have their eyes closed. Or maybe they always do. I don't know. I haven't really studied that. But obviously, it's quite a shattering moment to be born. For most people, even in gentle birth. It's like you, you go from being inside this carrying being connected to your lunch, breakfast, and dinner through an umbilical cord. Through darkness. You're listening to the heartbeat of your mother all the time, which is probably I hope, it is a soothing sound. And now you're out somewhere in this bright light, noisy, cold, right? It's warm in a womb, right? When you're outside, you have to wear clothing if you want to stay warm. It's quite a change. Yeah, it's a man. It's what? Yeah. And it's a wonderful reality that we live in with all these beautiful trees and plants and humans and animals and birds and reptiles and mountains and oceans and all kinds of amazing things. But in the moment of birth, that may be a little overwhelming.
Niki Coate 14:29
Yeah, absolutely. And overwhelming. describe what's happening on the planet right now.
Michaela Light 14:33
Yeah. But as we proceed further into this new earth, I just think that can be a wonderful adventure, and a wonderful opportunity, and things could be so much better than they are for many people in the old paradigm.
Niki Coate 14:49
Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Everything is changing. And you can see how as we're talking about it, the perspective actually is a huge deal. It's like what story Are you choosing to tell yourself about your life and the nature of reality? And do those stories help uplift you and empower you? Or do they separate you and, and, and disempower you, you know, so this, this idea of the new earth, you know, my ultimate belief is that anything is possible and anything is real and that we create through our belief system. And so if that's true, then choosing the stories and ideas that we want to nourish, to help bring in the reality that we want. Yeah, so that's a big part of the New Earth as well.
Michaela Light 15:38
I just want to come back to the resistance that people have, and we'll talk more about well, is everyone going to New Earth later, but I do notice in myself and in others that sometimes this whole shift becomes too much. And I want to take some kind of drug addiction drug, whether that's coffee, or caffeine, or alcohol, or illegal drugs, or I want to distract myself by watching videos on YouTube or going out, you know, partying or eating food obsessively, or having sex obsessively, or buying shopping obsessively. You know, nothing wrong with any of these things. But if they become an addiction, and a way to block out feelings and what's going on, you know, it can become an issue. And I think there are billions of people on the planet currently resisting this shift. Yeah. And I think beyond that, I think nearly everyone at some point during the day might find it all too much and resort to some way to block out the pain of the birth.
Niki Coate 16:45
Absolutely. Yeah. And so you know, I really work with people and encourage people to develop some healthy habits right now, some really simple things that can help balance the energies that can help us harmonize that can help us get into our centers and, and calm ourselves through the overwhelm because it is huge. We're seeing things like, again, it's an unprecedented shift in human consciousness, this has never happened before. As long as humans have existed on Earth. It's I like to joke about it, but it's actually like we're we are evolving, at
Michaela Light 17:15
Last not in not. It hasn't happened in recorded history, or unknown history, is what I'd say whether this happened before, is a little hard to sell. Because my belief in human history goes back a lot further than 10,000 years, which is about how far historians managed to get back. For sure, you know, if you look into Atlantis, Maria, perhaps they had a newer thing going on. And then, unfortunately, that ended for whatever reason, so. And, you know, I'm also open to the possibility, you know, humans are not the only, you know, highly conscious and intuitive, spiritual being in the universe, you know, there are other beings who, you know, may already be in this vibration, and possibly are here right now trying to, you know, here to help us whether you call them angels or aliens or spirits or, you know, spirit guides, or whatever. So,
Niki Coate 18:16
yeah, yeah, great points. Yeah, I believe in all those things. And where I'm coming from is from this deep knowing inside of myself, like all of this is beyond logic, you know, you can start to logic the pieces and see the evidence, but for me, what I feel is that this is an unprecedented time for the human species in terms of a fast quantum leap. And my you know, the thing that I feel right now is that we're, we're evolving at the maximum velocity that we can withhold right, and so going back to this idea that we need some things to help us cope, to process this. So there are some really simple things that are remedies for the overwhelm. One of them is getting in nature, spending time in nature, laying on the earth, walking through the trees, even just a few minutes is going to help when you're feeling anxious or overwhelmed or disoriented. Also, it's really important for us to spend time being quiet, you know, just spending some time without checking our phones without the media on without a conversation without music, even in the background, spending time in silence. And another piece that is key right now seems like a luxury in our modern societies, especially for entrepreneurs is rest. So I really often prescribed the practices of restorative yoga or yoga Nidra or guided relaxation and helping our nervous systems and our bodies keep up with all of this, the intensity on the planet right now.
Michaela Light 19:42
Those are great suggestions and we'll add more to them. At the end of the episode. I also think there's a when people are in pain some you know, healers suggest if your pain you should fully feel the pain so we can move through you on pa through. And I think that's a good suggestion for any pain, we experienced this if you if you're if you have the skills to be able to, to do that. And for a lot of people, they just want to ignore the pain and they want to cover it up, as we mentioned earlier, but also numb it out. And the something I've written and talked about a lot, which is called depression, which is kind of a yogic term, saying that as a society, many people are just numbed out, they're not experiencing joy. You know, they're not really fully alive as they could be. And I think that's partly got, I think that's getting worse. I mean, and I'm saying that because I see people dissatisfied, there's this great resignation thing with jobs where people say they want to change their job this year. And I think that's because they just don't feel you know, Soul satisfied in the work they're doing, or on an entrepreneurial level, they're just not happy with their business, they talk about selling their business because they're not happy with it at a deeper level. So, you know, I think there's a lot of facets to this change and, and the other indicator to me that there's something going on is the number of people taking addictive drugs or overdosing like on fentanyl. I think in the United States last year, 100,000 people died of fentanyl overdoses. It's just an incredible number. And, in some sense, unnecessary, you know, if they could connect to this new earth, they have some support, some move through the pains and shift their life, they wouldn't have to kill themselves slowly with drugs or whatever method they're using. Yeah.
Niki Coate 21:41
Yeah. And Mikayla, this is why one of the reasons I feel so passionate about sharing this information is that most of our suffering could shift if we just had a different perspective. So imagine, instead of some really difficult emotional or physical pain or situation, instead of meeting that and saying, This is hurting me, right, this is my enemy. What if we met instead and said, Okay, this is somehow designed to help me how I always like the game that I play with the reality that has changed everything in my life. Because I believe that everything comes from one source, and then I'm an expression of that source. And I believe also that everything is part of a design that is designed to evolve, to help us remember that we are love. Insert your own vocabulary there. But so how I play this game is I say this, whatever it is this pain, this emotional situation, this loss, this is designed by me, for me for my own awakening of consciousness, by which I mean what I mean by the awakening of consciousness for me to remember that I'm a divine and infinite soul that came here to learn. And what did I come to learn to remember that all is one? Right? So just playing the game? In other words, saying, How is this designed to help me designed by me, for me for my own awakening of consciousness? And what if we could start to apply that to all our pain? It doesn't make the challenge or the illness necessarily go away? Sometimes it does. But it changes our whole experience we can meet it was gratitude and curiosity and openness and say, Wow, how could this How could I miss the bus right now? How could I lose all of this money? How could me this, whatever it might be? How could this be designed to help me? How could this be an opportunity, right? And it changes everything? And so getting these uplifting perspectives out into the collective are essential at this time? Right?
Michaela Light 23:44
I think those are beautiful perspectives to have gratitude, openness, and curiosity. Curiosity is something we can usually apply at the moment that the challenge is happening. You know, just be open to it, instead of labeling it as bad negative what, you know, why am I suffering this terrible torment, you know, instead of being curious, so this is interesting, what, how interesting. And I know in some of my own energy healing work, just looking at a pattern or an event, through interest and shining that light of interest and curiosity on to the energy of it, it often is enough to shift it and change it.
Niki Coate 24:28
Yeah. And this is just the awareness.
Michaela Light 24:31
Yeah. Just the awareness, just being open to that. And then gratitude. Often people are able to look back into their past and say, Oh, when I was fired from that job, and it was so terrible at the time, wow, that was the greatest gift was I would never have started my own business if I hadn't been fired, or I would never have moved cities and met the love of my life or whatever you know, thing that came out of that situation that you can be grateful for now, or if I hadn't had that cancer I'd never have changed my lifestyle to be more healthy and then heal that and have a happier and healthier life, or, or, you know, got divorced or, you know, whatever the thing was that it encouraged them to do. So. But I think what you're saying is, that it's possible to get into that gratitude space much, much quicker. You don't have to wait decades to look back. To feel that gratitude. You can do it, you know, really soon, on the same day or maybe at the moment when you get really good at this.
Niki Coate 25:29
Yeah, absolutely. It is certainly a practice though. It's a practice. It's retraining our consciousness, you know, but you're right, the curiosity is the thing that's easiest for me also the word, this idea that Ooh, this is interesting because I desire and interesting experience of my life, right? So something interesting happens, like I cannot, I don't have to label it, like you said, good or bad. And that's something I can do right away. And then yeah, cultivating gratitude is part of a practice.
Michaela Light 25:56
Now, I am going to say at this point that on our current Earth, we have a lot of organizations and people are invested in labeling and judging, and dividing people. And the media is both social media and, you know, newspapers, TV, things. And many other organizations really focus on labeling and judging and like, this is bad, this is good. And so I'm just saying to people, maybe cut that reduce your diet of media while you're going through this because that's another way to support yourself in this shift. I can guarantee you no, I used to be obsessively reading The Washington Post, when I lived in Washington, DC metro area, from cover to cover every day, and I went on a cold turkey, I'm not going to touch the newspaper, it was very hard for the first few days. And I need the support of a coach and some alternative things to do with my hands during that time, but what I found out is first of all, that my mind was not being filled with all this negativity and judgment. And secondly, anything really important happened in the world, I'd find out, people will be talking about it, or it would appear, you know, if it was gonna affect me personally, I'd become aware of it, it isn't, you know, this obsession with news is not required. In my
Niki Coate 27:22
Yeah, for sure. You know, I have a background in journalism, right. So you're, I'm very like, trained to believe that to be out, you know, to be a good citizen, you need to be informed with the news. And at a certain point, as I, as I started to go deeper into my spiritual work, I learned that I could not watch the news, I had to disengage from the news and from other media like that, and it has had a tremendously positive effect on my life. So yeah, at least being aware of the effect that it has and kind of limiting your intake can be really helpful. Also, picking and choosing what sources you know, and where you're getting your information from, can be really helpful. And I want to address this idea of there's a whole bunch of structures that are upholding separation, right? Because as you can see, even within ourselves, we're resistance to resistant to change, even if that change is going to be positive. And you can see that in the collective, the collective is also resistant to change. We don't want the old systems to fall away, because we don't know what the new system looks like. It's an unknown and we have to take this risk, we have to follow our hearts and our deep intuition to know that it's something that's helpful to us, right. But one of the deepest insights that I received at the beginning of the COVID shutdown was that there is no other and that we need to stop acting as if there's another all the time, right, even, even in the spiritual communities, we do a lot of us in them, right. And so starting to see again, just like we do with the pain are the challenge, seeing everyone around us is also trying to help our evolution, even if it looks like they're our enemy, or even if it looks like they're in opposition to us. So meeting everything with this, this idea that this is designed by me for my own awakening of consciousness.
Michaela Light 29:13
I think that's a great perspective. And I just want to emphasize the, you know, media diet. I personally find video is a very strong format to consume news in it can be very emotional, it can be upsetting. It can be traumatizing. I can get PTSD from watching violent videos. And there's a phrase in journalism, I'm sure you've heard this if it bleeds, it leads. In other words, if it's violent, if it's upsetting, if it's going to stir people's emotions up of anger or fear, then that's what gets put on the headlines on the front page or at the beginning of the news story. And the stories are heartwarming and like oh humanity's really got it together. And 99% of people are doing really well this year. They don't make it to the front On the page, they may not even make it to page 31, you know. So, you know, you may have to select things. And I find reading stuff is less upsetting. Generally, if I need to find out what's going on, I prefer to read at the watch video if possible, or hear it from someone else who has actually been, you know, seen it directly isn't a great way to do it. And just to go off on a slight tangent, you know, the local people here in Cusco are the Quechua tribe, which is a tribe of maybe 8 million people currently. And in the Quechua language, they actually have a grammatical difference between, you know, when you're telling something this happened, you know, the house fell down. Did you personally see it? That's one grammatical ending in the verb structure. Did a friend of yours see it? And they told you that's another one? Or is it just hearsay and you heard somewhere on the grapevine that the house fell down, and they have different grammatical structures for the true level of it, which I thought was quite entertaining. And I'm not learning Quechua, because for that reason that the grammar was really quite complex and tonality. It sounds like Chinese to me, although I realize its separate language, I just thought that was interesting that they, you know, actually make that distinction. You know, just like French or Spanish distinguish three male or female verbs, but they're distinct train levels of truth, which,
Niki Coate 31:27
yeah, it's beautiful, isn't it? I love it.
Michaela Light 31:29
And just applying that back to TV, news, video, news, newspapers, whatever. I've studied, I haven't studied journalism, Nikki, but I have studied, you know, the dark arts of public relations and how to get, you know, if you're a company and you want to get your product or service covered, how do you manipulate the press in order to cover it, which sounds a bit dark and naughty. And there's a book I'll put in the show notes whose name I'm forgetting right now. But the point I want to make is if you look objectively at a newspaper, 90% of it is placed, it's either placed by companies trying to promote something, you know, by, you know, you, you're not good enough, unless you get a new car, or you're not good enough unless you get this drug, or whatever the thing is, or it's government departments trying to push their latest, you know, initiative, right. And so they need to stir up the fear or the anger in order to get their initiative to have support. And when I've looked at a newspaper just circled, okay, yeah, this is from PR, this is 90% of the stuff is from PR, and then there's a few articles like earthquake happen. Okay, that's actual, factual. And then the other thing that happens a lot in the news that I became aware of is, that a lot of it is not actual news. A lot of it's like, opinion about what might happen in the future, or this is their thoughts on, you know, their judgment on something that has happened and their theory on what it's about. So I'm just saying a lot of news is not really news. It's more opinion, judgment, or manipulation. Yeah.
Niki Coate 33:08
Yeah. And then I love that Mikayla and then applying this, this idea that I'm talking about, and designed by me, for me for my own awakening consciousness. Okay, so we can see that there's some corporation that wants you to act in a certain way. And so they endorse the news in a certain way. And here's our big chance is like seeing how is this designed for my own evolution. And a lot of times right now, the, what's being reflected us is what we don't want this, what doesn't resonate with us, we don't want to feel this economic pressure, we don't want to run the rat race, you know, we don't want to feel stressed, we don't want to feel unhappy. And so a lot of what's happening in our environment, and inside of us, as individuals, is really showing us what we don't want so that we can get the momentum and clarity to decide what we do want. And, you know, as we're talking about the new earth, everything has to do with choice. And so we need to get really clear on what we don't want and what we do want in order to choose and have an empowered and aligned choice in our lives.
Michaela Light 34:09
Yeah, I mean, to me, one of the things I realize this consciousness, in some sense equals awareness plus choice. First, you have to become aware of the options and what's going on. Because without that, how can you make a good choice? And then secondly, you can't just be aware, you can't just be this monkey in a cave, being aware that your business could go one way or another. You actually need to make some choices and take some actions. Yeah, absolutely. That's beautiful. So well, we've really dug into that. I do want to mention one other thing here that, for me, this new Earth thing doesn't mean the old earth is going away. There's still gonna be whatever we call 3d reality here, but it's like an overlay. It's like putting on these rose-colored glasses. I actually wear blue light. But now everything's happier Right. And yeah, I can see the same houses and trees and I meet the same people. But you know, I have a different perspective on it. And I am that you're feeling on the New Earth that it's kind of a Yeah, absolute way of looking at things and it can coexist with the old paradigm. Exactly. Two people in the same situation one in the New Earth, one in the oldest.
Niki Coate 35:23
Yeah, absolutely. And how my, my like, feeling of that the rose-colored glasses is, is it's an internal experience. It's a feeling inside of ourselves. And you know, the New Earth is already here. And that's why we're going in and out of it in and out of it a lot of us, right, we can feel the old stuff, and that feels heavy and full of suffering, we can feel the new way which feels expansive, and uplifting and full of Curiosity and Opportunity, right? So so for sure, I feel certain you know, a lot of people are like, Oh, my gosh, are our the system's going to crumble, or we're going to have Armageddon, what's the situation is going to be this big sci-fi thing. And that's not my belief, what I really believe is that the New Earth frequency is coming through each of our internal experiences to get infused into the system. And it will therefore change the entire system, there will be massive changes as a result, but it's coming through individual humans like them putting on their rose-colored glasses, or them having an opening inside of themselves that one day to the next we start seeing things with a new perspective.
Michaela Light 36:32
So the good news there is I don't need to buy a ticket to go to the New Earth. I don't need to do you know, it's all it's there at any moment. I can shift my perspective so I can shift my vibration. And I just want to say when you said feels expansive, I think that's a good kind of New Earth ometer to know, am I in the New Earth right now? Do I feel expansive? Do I feel joyful? Do I feel the love? Or do I feel fear and contracted and you know, compressed and suppressed, enslaved even to take it to a radical level? So and it can shift with through the day or a different day, one day, I might be in Britain, I get out of a bed on the right side as they used to say, and the day goes wonderfully, and I meet all the right people and all the things go well, and other days, maybe that's not the case.
Niki Coate 37:26
Yeah, absolutely. And it requires some tools around it to remind ourselves, right. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. You're on mute. Still, Mikayla.
Michaela Light 37:40
I muted myself. There you go. So we've got a bit more time, you know, in the show. Maybe you could just tell a little story that I think is quite inspiring about you know, how you came to found healing house, even though the evidence in the 3d world wasn't that inspiring?
Niki Coate 38:05
Yeah, beautiful, Mikayla. Thanks. Yeah, I've been here in Cusco for 13 years. And so many people over the years asked me what was your vision for a healing house was? You know, how did you How are you proactive and created this? What's not? the institution here in a uplifting way in the city, and so many people around the world know it. And the truth, the funny thing is, is I didn't have a vision. So So my story is basically I was going through a big change in life, that all of us have these radical moments of the rug getting pulled out from underneath of us, right? That was a catalyst for me to start to become more energetically sensitive. But what it really did in that energetic sensitivity was it helped me start to listen to my own inner wisdom, I call it the hearts wisdom. You could call it your inner wisdom, you could call it your intuition. And something inside of me said go south. And at this point, I was living in northern New Jersey, go south, there's a lot of south to cover, but I knew it meant Central or South America. And so this experience of mine of starting to listen to that inner hearts wisdom, and follow it, really at all costs, was what led me to follow this little kind of trail of breadcrumbs really, you know, go south, ended up in Cusco stay here longer. Eventually, what started to happen was a message came through getting up Get a room where you can host Reiki and meditation and some of the healing arts. And that led me to find a house and have the guts to rent the house even though that didn't make any economic sense for me at that point. And little economic
Michaela Light 39:50
sense does it make how much money you have in your pocket, and how much rent
Niki Coate 39:57
clue what I had I had, did you have
Michaela Light 39:59
enough money to pay the rent,
Niki Coate 40:01
I had enough money to pay the rent. Here's my situation. I had some school loans and things coming out of my account in the United States. And I had a couple grand left in there. And but I was like determined not to touch it. And so by this point, my husband and I were we had met, he's now my husband. At that point, he was my boyfriend, and we started playing music together in Cusco. And we were making like between 30 and 60, solo plays a gig per person. I
Michaela Light 40:26
didn't dollars, those 30 $15 Yeah, 10 or $15 or $15. A night,
Niki Coate 40:33
per night. Yeah, so it's not a lot of money. And we were like counting change, we had just enough money to pay for the rent and the deposit which I don't remember what it was back then I think it was 400 us or something at that time. So we needed like 800 bucks. And it was like the all the money that we had together. And so something inside just said, get this house, get this house. And so we got the house and people started to come people started to ring the doorbell asking for Reiki and meditation before we even had a sign outside. And so all of these, like experiences of these breadcrumbs that led to magic unfolding really became the mission for healing house and poche Ananda, which is to give people practices that help them get into their centers. It could be yoga, it could be meditation, it could be nature walks, so provide these practices to help people get present and centered so that they can listen to that voice inside of them. Because really, this is what we're looking for. We're looking for that clear pathway that that clarity, that assurance inside of us that knows, hey, even though this doesn't make any sense, I'm going to do it anyway. And so I've lived my life like that for the past, you know, maybe 14 years, one of my students has asked, Is it always right? And I? And the answer is yeah, it's always right. That feeling inside of your heart, your heart of hearts, wisdom is always right. And sometimes it our mind makes a whole big story around it right that says, Oh, this and this, and this is going to unfold. And then we end up disappointed because our minds have created a story. But our heart is never misleading us. Right? It can lead into challenges. It can lead to disappointments, but it's taking us on our soul's path. It's this compass, right. And so the same thing happened up here where I had this heart wisdom message that said it was to go to the bank and get a loan, and we had a yoga teacher, my husband's a musician, there's no way we can get a loan, we had no evidence of income and some miracle of the universe happened where we got a pre-approved loan. Another miracle happened, where we found the land of poche Ananda at a really discounted rate and just flowed together to buy this beautiful land where we built our retreat center and home now. And it was a big risk. It's the biggest risk I've ever taken, you know. And so that really goes into what Makayla teaches about intuitive leadership, you know, is, for me, everything about how I live my life, and how I run my business is in an intuitive way. And sometimes it's radical, but it's always fruitful, it always takes me where I need to go. But you have to be willing to take some risks, you know, so that's my story. That's how I ended up here. And that's what we continue to do to help people get into that heart's wisdom here.
Michaela Light 43:25
It's so inspiring. And I just want to add in a little thing, you know, having rented this house, the second month's rent was due and you didn't have the money for it. But magically, you know, these friends turned up to give a Reiki workshop, I think or some such thing. And you suddenly had the money. Yeah, so yeah,
Niki Coate 43:41
it was I was, I was it was in the morning, and I turned to my then partner now-husband and said, We don't have money to pay the rent. And then my phone rang. And it was someone's, I got your number. And I would like to start Reiki training. Do you think we could start it right away? And I was like, okay, and that became my big lesson that said, you know, what, if I am just present and listening, that the universe is going to show up to support this project, in the way that is necessary. So, yeah, that's been the practice.
Michaela Light 44:13
So, I'm curious, you know, I got this question. Someone who was very interested in this topic of the New Earth, and she is very into this raising her vibration and all the things we've discussed, but her family, boyfriend and kids, they don't get it. So what would you recommend for you know, her, you know, she doesn't want to just kick him out of the house, right? Yeah. But how should she deal with these people who don't yet hopefully, they're gonna get it in the future, but they don't get it right now. Could she be trying to convert them should she be, you know, going along with their old paradigm of fear and lack? What would you suggest?
Niki Coate 44:57
Well, this is such a hot topic through the healing house. Most people come and have big transformation, then they say, but my family or my friends or my spouse, they aren't into it, what do I do? You know, and the only thing that you can change is inside of yourself, and you'll see a miracle start to happen if you start to create a different vibration inside of yourself, everyone around you and your environment will be affected. And this is how the New Earth is born, right? It's through ourselves in small ways every day, I have this joke that that no one is immune to the frequency of the New Earth that people are awakening that had no context or even conscious desire to start to become more sensitive and more connected. And so also part of that is, is not assuming that other people aren't also evolving. So there's that piece that can be really helpful. I've had a lot of times over the years where, you know, I feel like I've gone through so much radical transformation, and I've got weirder and weirder and more and more woohoo, and I'm gonna meet with somebody I haven't seen for 15 years, and I assume that they can't meet me there. And lots of times people surprise me. So just being open to that. You know, another thing that about that topic that at the very beginning of COVID, I said, So what's what's required now for this new Earth to start to come in? And the answer that came through my own intuitive wisdom was, you know, one person getting present with one other person. And that was the beauty of the lockdowns. Right, yeah, we did a lot of, you know, numbing out and all of that, but also a lot of people connected. I don't know about you guys. But I ended up connecting not only with my family who I was in lockdown with, in a deeper way, but also I connected with old friends, because everyone was stuck at home. And so we did zoom calls, and we had heart-to-heart conversations. And, and so there was a deep connection that happened, you know, and then the last thing that I would say, that I've learned so much about this evolution of consciousness thing, is that the biggest and most important pieces of the puzzle, are really accessible to everyone. They don't require even a belief in the New Earth or anything like this. They don't require a belief in God, to the biggest pieces that are creating the change are things like kindness, one human being kind to another human, that requires presence, which is bringing it in, and it creates an opening, you know, so so we can get all woowoo and new agey and talking about all the stuff. But when it really comes to the massive change that's happening on the planet, the fundamental pieces of love and kindness, are accessible to all beings. You know, gratitude is another example. So for people who aren't going to engage with us in a conversation, that sounds too new agey, or woowoo, we can meet them in gratitude, we can meet them in kindness, and trust that that's enough, right? So those two things, meeting them in those very human ways. And the other piece is taking responsibility for your own inner landscape and trusting that that's going to affect those around you without doing it. You know, we're not doing that inner changes in order to that our husband starts reading and then the spiritual books, right, we're doing it for ourselves, but that does have an effect on everything around us. Does that make sense? Mikayla?
Michaela Light 48:29
Absolutely. And just coming back to that reframe that everything in our life is there to help us grow and learn, it may be that that family I believe, we incarnate into families, and we pick our parents and siblings, whether or not you believe that you can certainly take the attitude of these pets family members or friends to be possible, you know, growth and learning thing. And, you know, if you're some people are on the, you know, small hill learning course, other people are going for climbing Mount Everest, and some people incarnate with family members who you know, are also kind and supportive and others have on a spiritual level, not necessarily on a conscious level, but pick someone who's a real decayed and is going to really provide, you know, going to strengthen your muscles of kindness, and boundaries and gratitude. So, the other thing I would add into that, as I shift my frequency, what I find is, yes, it does help inspire others or helps them shift their frequency. It also is the case that some people just, you know, gently leave my reality, you know, and they just don't vibrate. I mean, the way I think of it is all human, all the billions of humans on the planet. It's like we're all walking across an enormous football pitch really enormous. And some people are going from south to north and some people from Southwest and Northwest and you East to West. And if you're with other family members, and you're both walking north parallel, you stay together. But you may come across people in your life, you're going in this direction vertically, and they're going a slight angle and you drift apart. And that is very common in friendships or romantic relationships. The people just grow in different directions. And it's okay. Yeah. So, you know, maybe shifting the expectation that, oh, my goodness, you're supposed to stay with these friends for you know, 70 years, or however many years you and they live, or you're supposed to stick with family members, no matter how irritating, they are a Thanksgiving, or whatever, you know, maybe that's not true. You know, maybe this family of choice as well, and friends of choice. And just because you went to the same grade school together doesn't mean you're going to resonate with this person forever. Just a thought.
Niki Coate 50:57
Michaela Light 50:59
And when I say they shift away, that may mean several things, it may mean, you just don't spend as much time you only see him occasionally, it may mean that they totally, you know, they get a different job, and you just don't hang out together. It might mean in my case, I stopped drinking alcohol 17 years ago, and some of the P friends continued, but others who I was just friends with go get wasted with didn't really resonate so much anymore, you know, it wasn't a thing or the other way people leave our reality as they die, you know. And some people can't just handle the birthing pain or the way I looked at it, when they incarnated they bought a ticket to x one of the play of the New Earth, but they didn't buy tickets to act two and act three, and they just, they're just leaving the planet because they did. You know, they've done their bit. They played their role. You know, as Shakespeare says, whatever that quote is, all the world's stage men, men or humans are only players. You know, I think we do all play parts in our own growth thing. But when our part is over, don't, you know, not all characters in the play, stay in the whole effing play for the whole time. Right? Some people walk on and walk off, others are there for longer. And I don't have to get upset just because someone you know, I don't have to create a whole story that oh, they're rejecting me, or I'm a bad person or whatever. There's just that was the role we had in my reality. And me in this.
Niki Coate 52:29
Yeah, this is where the heart's wisdom is really helpful, you know, get centered, trust yourself know how to show up. Mm-hmm.
Michaela Light 52:37
Now, that brings me to a question here. Do all humans move to the new earth?
Niki Coate 52:46
Well, I keep saying no one's immune to the new earth, you know, and that there's a possibility for everyone to awaken to this higher harmony? And the truth is, I don't know. I don't know. I think that that's available to everyone. And that I find it I mean, if I can take my own personal experience, I feel like I really have to choose it. I feel like there's a choice. And not everyone has to have the back vocabulary of the New Earth, right? You know, someplace that we can all meet on common ground is basically as Michaela said earlier, most people are highly unsatisfied with their lives. And that is really uncomfortable. And that's something we can almost all agree upon. Right? We're unsatisfied with our experience of life. And so, so making, taking the making the choices and taking action, you know, taking responsibility to make the changes in our lives. So I feel like it's available to everyone. It certainly seems like they're some will involved, you know, and for myself, I find myself needing to choose this new way of thinking and being moment by moment. So yeah, what do you think Michaela?
Michaela Light 54:05
I think billions of people are going to leave, I really do, you know, seven or 8 billion people on the planet, I could easily see a third of them just this isn't their thing. They love the old paradigm of fear and struggle, and 3d stuff, and not so much spiritual stuff. And it's just the birthing pain is just too much. And we all virtual beings, humans included have free will. And their free will at a soul level is no they're not going to do this. That's my personal Yeah. And it's sad. You know, I have friends who've died in the last year. And you know, that practical reasons they died, whether it was cancer or accidents or heart attacks or whatever. And, you know, there's this new thing going around in the media sad, sudden Adult Death Syndrome. It's a bit like saying, which was sudden infant death syndrome. And the way I've seen that in the mainstream media, they say, Oh, this is a mystery, why are so many people dying for unknown reasons, and I won't dig into what I think the reasons are. But clearly, there are people leaving, and it's a lot more leaving, you know, the excess deaths, statistics, for young people, you know, they're up, depending on the country, you know, anywhere from 20 to 100%, more deaths of young people under 60, you know, interviewing people or old age talking people in the prime of their life or in their youth, and they're just leaving. Yeah, and, you know, I don't like seeing friends suffer or die. But, you know, if they, if that's their sole choice, then, you know, it's not for me to, they've got their own free will. And I can't remember the name of this book, and I'm not going to dig it up in the show notes. But I read this really a parent of someone of a heroin addict, and their child who they love dearly, just keep kept going back to heroin, and they tried to help them, they tried to help them, eventually, they just had to say, Look, you want to keep taking heroin, sorry, we've got some boundaries here, you know, can't let you steal money from us, or whatever they were getting up to. And that was a very hard thing for them to do to, you know, let go and let the person you know, they did the best they could to help this person change. And, you know, coming back to the friends and family, you know, yeah, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink, you know. And maybe you can sit next to the horse and you drink some water, and maybe the horse will get the idea that perhaps it will help their thirst or their pain of the old Earth to drink some water to but if the horse is stubborn, and it doesn't want to drink water, even when it's right in front of it. What are you going to do? You know?
Niki Coate 57:04
Yeah, I had some teaching a long time ago, around this subject where I had, I felt like if, if I kept going on my spiritual path, I was going to have to leave several loved ones kind of behind, or we were no longer going to have a relationship anymore. And, and in my case, and in the case of many people that I've worked with, what I found was sometimes the relationships fall away. But sometimes also, as we go farther on our spiritual path, and we move more into the presence and love inside of ourselves. My experience was that the people I thought were not going to I wasn't gonna have a relationship with anymore, I actually ended up developing a deeper relationship. It wasn't right away. But it was because I was able to step into a deeper place of love. And through that, I had a big epiphany. Up until that point, I was always saying, you know, I was like preaching, the yoga and the Reiki and then whatever. And I thought, you know, this is the right way, you know, this is the right way. And I realized that it was the right way. And I realized that that wasn't everyone's way. And that their way, if it's not resonating with them, my way is not resonating with them, they have their own way, their way is their right way. But I had to think My way was the right way, or I wouldn't have risked going that way. Right. So it helped me just have a lot of acceptance for people's paths. And again, focusing on my own vibration and my own life. And I do a lot of outreach and teaching. Right, but trusting that the people who resonate with those teachings will show up, and that people who don't want, and that that is actually good, right. So it helped me have a lot of balance and acceptance in my life around that point. And then this piece of people leaving, I just want to add in a little possibility for some of the souls who are leaving, because I have been feeling this too, is maybe some of them need a new body to come back into Earth. So they're leaving and they're gonna come back and be born into the new frequency. Certainly not the case for everyone. Right. But I have had that kind of hit with a couple of instances of people being like, Okay, I see you need a new, a new suit to get back into Earth and help us bring in the new age. So yeah,
Michaela Light 59:22
yeah. And you know, sometimes people the way I feel with healing things are body parts. You know, we may have an ache in our back or whatever, and it's the body like tapping us on the shoulder and saying, Hey, Mikayla, time to wake up you need to have this realization whatever it is, and I like to send love to my or smile at my body parts and listen to any messages they have and then the pain or the illness goes away. But other times some people you know, the body part taps on the shoulder and they ignore they ignore it's like you've got a toddler in the house and you're ignoring them and mommy, mommy, I need to go to the bathroom. You just ignore You know, because you're busy with someone else. And then it gets more urgent and the body part like, hey, hey, hey. And then they kind of pick up a two-by-four and whack you over the head with it. Like, hey, Mikayla, wake up, wake up, you need to do something about this. And often that will show up as severe illness, like, you know, you have to go and get surgery for you've got cancer or whatever. And I, you know, I've had a, I had a life partner had cancer. I've known a lot about that. And I've studied a lot, and a lot of people who get cancer have what's called spontaneous remission. What that means is the medical Western doctors have no effing idea how they heal, they just magically healed. And often, what occurs to most people is they make a radical shift in their life, whatever that might mean, they may be quit that job that was soul-destroying, or they had a good deep talk with their life partner and shifted the relationship or they got divorced, or, or they moved to a new town, or whatever the thing was, or they change their health, they looked after their health better, you know, made it a priority, they didn't, you know, drain themselves, the cost of their own health. And so what I'm saying is, some people may leave, you know, die, some people may go through a more extreme experience. Now, I was watching a great video that I'll put into the comments, that is this girl, she was in Austin University, they're studying journalism, in fact, and she was really depressed and suicidal, she kind of committed to doing a 10k run to kind of keep life together. And then she had a car accident and broke her back in three places. And she had an out-of-body experience, she had a near-death experience, she actually went, you know, out of her body. She saw what her stepfather was doing, which was something she wouldn't have known he did something he wasn't, he didn't do. But she was able to report what he did. And she had experiences with connecting with the light or God or whatever you want to call it. And she had a choice, should I go back into my body? Or should I, you know, leave and she chose to go back and she totally changed her life direction. She's now a teacher, not a journalist. Anyway, you can watch the video later. It's quite inspiring. But what I'm trying to say is not everyone, there are many ways people can shift. And people. Some people buy a ticket to the merry-go-round. And it's very gentle. Other people like the death-defying roller coaster that goes off and looks like it's gonna crash or die. And then they escape. Yeah. And other people do actually crash and die. It's all okay. I know, we're nearly up against the time barrier. And we've been talking a wonderful conversation. Can you give some, you know, if there's one thing that someone wants to incorporate into their business in life? You know, what, what would you say they should take away from this? What would you like them to take away?
Niki Coate 1:02:53
Yeah, I'm I mean, the one thing that I feel like is the game-changer is that through choice, we create our reality, especially now with this new Earth frequency, right? So the life you desire is here already, the business experience you desire is here already, it takes some micro-practices of remembering and choosing, and that the life that you want to create is, it's coming in the moment by moment, and how you show up in your day to day grind, moment by moment, and to not underestimate the power this, this exponential power of the choices we're making right now. And the priorities, how we're shifting priorities, right? So really evaluating moment by moment pausing and saying is, does this move me towards the life and that I desire? Does this move me towards the experience of my business that I desire? Or does it keep me in the old limited form, right, and that our choices are more empowered than ever before? Right? So just pause and ask and trust that you can bring in great change in very small ways.
Michaela Light 1:04:15
And that change might look like taking a few deep breaths before you work on whatever the task is, or make that sales call or whatever, or taking a little nap or walking around the block or whatever the micro-decisions. Were might mean smiling, you know, that's always a great energy shift.
Niki Coate 1:04:32
Yeah, I've got a couple of practices I'll give you before we leave, please do. So the big thing is choice, right? So we have to remember what we're choosing what is it? So remember, we're getting clear on what we don't want so we can get clear on what we do want and choosing it but remembering to choose. So having some reminders around your environment can be really helpful maybe on your screensaver, or on your mirror, reminding you of what you choose and how you're choosing to experience your life. So for example, one of my big reprogramming has is that I have plenty of time and energy. So I can put that on my mirror, I have plenty of time and energy, right. And another thing I like to call micro-practices, which in some small act that you do, hopefully, first thing in the morning, or really close to first thing in the morning, and then potentially throughout the day, some very small programmed to act that helps you get into the frequency and experience and the feeling of the life that you want. So here's a great example. Something I do in the morning is I have some tuning forks or little bells. So you could use a bell, you could use anything at all, that's an act. So I take it, I make the sound. And I remember how I want to feel and I choose the feeling. I light up inside with gratitude and an appreciation, I choose to feel expansive over contraction, however you want to. However, you want to anchor that in for yourself. But taking one small physical action and supercharging it with the feeling and doing it throughout your day, it can be a total game-changer. Yeah. And another piece that I want to just add-in that can be really, really helpful right now as we're talking about relationships is being in a community with other people who share your vision, being in community, having developing friendships, reaching out to people that that are helping uplift you and help bring out this vision for your life that you desire. So these micro-practices, choosing the frequency you want. And being around people that share that vision are some key pieces during these really interesting times on Earth. Those are great
Michaela Light 1:06:39
tips Nikki and I just want for entrepreneurs to listen, I just want to expand on that what you know, you could create a spiritual group of other entrepreneurs to feel in a similar way. But you also could select staff to work for your business that shares that vision and that energy and attitude. And ditto with the clients, you can fire the clients that aren't a good energetic fit, who are a pain in the batter irritating to you. Or you could set some boundaries and tell them if you want to stay working with me, you've got to shift, some of them may shift some may not. And then when you're attracting ideal clients to you in the future, you look, you know, the energy, the attitude I want them to have, as well as the other practical characteristics. So it's possible that your own company could be this community. Yeah. Same with vendors as well. So cool. If people want to find you online, Nicky, what are the best ways to do that?
Niki Coate 1:07:38
Michaela, I need to say one more thing you just totally inspired me. Can
Michaela Light 1:07:41
I say one more thing? Yeah, kudos,
Niki Coate 1:07:43
thank you. It's what McHale is just saying about making these choices. So the new earth energy is about putting you the life that you love and desire first, even within the context of your business. And taking some risks to trust that if you're honoring your own well-being and joy, that the abundance is going to come and everything you need to uphold the vision for your life is going to come. And so sometimes it's taking a risk like firing a client. And that seems like an old paradigm, we need all the clients now even if they're a pain in the butt, right. But in the new paradigm, what we're doing is we're choosing and so through a decision by firing a client who doesn't resonate with you, what you're doing is you're making space for the life that you really desire. And so this model that I've been practicing, that I'll leave you guys with, is trusting I believe in a reality in which if I am thriving, and I'm in my joy, and I'm loving my life, my business will also thrive. I attract more students and clients when I'm feeling really good, and I'm enjoying my life. And so this is the new paradigm, this is the new earth. And it's not about burning the candle at both hands. I could spend 25 hours doing Instagram stuff today. But if I'm not vibrating in this expansive joy, then I'm not getting the abundance and I'm not generating the clients. And so this is the new earth and taking a risk to reprioritize your life, you know, so thanks for that last little bit. I just wanted to get that in there. It's one of the things I feel most passionate about.
Michaela Light 1:09:08
Yeah, and for anyone listening who's never fired a client, that doesn't mean you're mean to them firing sounds like a mean thing to do. But really, you're just saying, Look, this isn't resonating. Here are my boundaries, here's what you know, is it's not my it's not you, it's me who's changed. It's like one of those relationship breakup conversations, right? And then you if you do it kindly if they're open to it, you like, Well, look, we're not a fit, but here's someone else I can refer you to, could be a better fit. Obviously, you talk to that person to make sure they really are a better fit for this kind of person, because maybe they're young in their business and they're hungry for clients and they'll put up with more BS or they just have a better personality that can deal with that kind of person better, you know. And so those are some tips for firing clients. And some people look at their client list every errantly just great I have a spreadsheet where I like okay, here are the different characteristics I'm looking for in a client that makes them ideal and I score them on the ones at the bottom are the ones look at, hey, maybe they need to be let go. And it's good to do that because by creating energetic space in our business that now gives space for new clients to come in that are ideal. Anyway, back to how people can find Nikki Cote and Petra Nanda and healing house online. What are the best ways to do Okay, so
Niki Coate 1:10:29
our website is a great way it's hacia, Nanda cusco.com. I'll spell it patch up P A Cha, now Nanda n a n d a Pacha Nanda Cusco, C U S. co.com. You can also find us on Facebook and Instagram healing house and PATA Nanda. So you can check it out in the notes and I'm so grateful. Please reach out. I'd love to hear from all of you. I'm really grateful for the space and this beautiful conversation today. Mikayla,
Michaela Light 1:11:00
you're so welcome. Thanks for coming to the show.
Niki Coate 1:11:10
Bye-bye. Thank you.