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Michaela Light 0:00
Welcome back to the show. I'm here with Diana and it grew up, made me better pronounce it correctly, because I think I just screwed it up for about any girl bear with me. And we're gonna be talking about an experience she had had no clients and help sales pipeline. And what she did about that. And it wasn't panic, it was reactive. So we talked about how she called her abundance, and went beyond scarcity in her sale. Welcome, Diana,
Diana Grobelny 0:32
Thank you so much for having me.
Michaela Light 0:35
You're welcome. So, if you don't know her, she is an operation of virtual operations. coherent. I think that's how you say online business manager. She also is an expert at clickup. In case any of you listening clickup complications, and she worked for over a decade at Levi will make those being European headquarters. And look corporate knowledge, too. And she loves helping out remote teams get more organized. optimize their processes, collaborate better. performance. So do we have great performance? So Diana is originally from Germany. She's lived in a lot of country. And she's currently living in Bali. Beautiful. Yeah. So we we were chatting about what happened to you, I think it was this summer, right? This year. And you said that you you didn't have any, you know, clients lined up, but I think three months, which could be quite exciting. For some people listening. They're like, well, I don't have any clients. What were your initial reactions when you notice? What's thinkable?
Diana Grobelny 1:59
I mean, first of all, it was kind of intentional to take a break. So it was to plan for me to take a summer break. I have
Michaela Light 2:06
Tension before that, at the beginning of the year or something. It wasn't like, yeah,
Diana Grobelny 2:10
So you know, so beginning of the year, I had a lot of clients and had a lot of work. And I've never had a break in my life. So I noticed that a lot of my projects were ending around April, May, this year, and also one of my long term plans, because I have long term plans. I have shorter projects. But yeah, so I was like, okay, April, May, most of the My Projects are finishing. So should I take a break? Because I had just arrived in Bali. There's a very different energy here. There's a lot of topics I'm interested in and also want to learn about. And I thought, you know, why not take maybe a few months off? So, of course, there's always the thought. But what if someone asked me, will I still say no? Or will I say yes, but actually, I did say no to people, because I was like, No, I really want to take this break, and something will come once I'm ready. The plan was to go back to work in September. But what made me a bit nervous was because usually, my clients contact me like I don't really have any marketing strategy. It's always people contacting me. And what I noticed this summer was, it wasn't happening, no one was contacting me. And I was like, that's weird. Even though I wasn't looking for clients, even though I didn't want clients, I still noticed it. And also, I saw that I was talking to my friends who are also, you know, consultants and freelancers. And they experienced they were struggling with finding clients this summer. So I was like, maybe something is happening. Maybe it's maybe it's just summer, maybe it's something else, right. But I still trusted that, you know, once I'm ready, something will come. Yeah, so I was not really nervous. In the beginning, I became a little bit more nervous towards the end of it. But yeah, it all turned out well. Because as soon as I was ready again in September, a wonderful new client showed up. And yeah.
Michaela Light 4:05
So you know, you've been in business for several years yourself and you work in corporate areas. alone time. How would your younger self would deal with this kind of situation? Like no clients coming in? You sound very calm about Yes.
Diana Grobelny 4:27
A few years ago would not have been calm about it at all. And this is why I never had a break in my life is because I never allowed myself to have a break. Because I graduated from high school. I went straight into university and I started my first job before I even graduated. Because I was always like, I need to have something right I can't be without. And even like when I decided to leave corporate and do something on my own. I was wondering, how will I find clients like this was always my biggest question our biggest fear and I think it's for most people who are doing this shift But yeah, so I just decided for myself as a rule that if it flows, if it's easy, it's meant to be, right. So I knew that if I'm supposed to do this, clients will come. And if one ratio of a client ends, it means that something else will open up. So I need to make space for something better. And this is exactly what happened. Because even beginning of the year, my plans for this year were very different in terms of what kind of projects I want to work on. Now it has changed. And now I've have a lot of very interesting opportunities coming up to me that I never would have considered a few months ago. So if I would have stayed in this mindset of, I need to be full with clients, I wouldn't have even have time to have these conversations.
Michaela Light 5:46
So would you describe your previous behaviors, that kind of entrepreneurial hustle mindset, you always have to be working hard? And yes, following every opportunity and say yes, to every prospect, even if they know.
Diana Grobelny 6:03
Yeah, for sure. For sure. I mean, this is, yeah, because I was scared of it. Right? Like, it is a big jump, and I'm coming from corporate, you know, I never had to look for clients. So in the beginning, for sure, I was like, Okay, if something comes up, I can't say no, I can't afford to say no. Which has definitely changed.
Michaela Light 6:25
So that's quite a shift. And I'm sure some people listening would love to learn a little bit more about, you know, what were the key turning points in your journey that helped you get this new place, having clients just flow and new accepting when they're not coming? Or, you know, if an existing client, you your Les Paul ways, you can just set that, you know, going into that scarcity mindset.
Diana Grobelny 6:58
While there was a lot of inner work, of course, it happened. And coming from corporate and my life in, in Belgium, back then, to making this jump, a lot of things that had to happen, a lot of key shifts, as you say, and I think one of the main ones was meeting the right people, or like, getting aligned with the right people. Because when you're in corporate, these things don't happen. Like, right, no one lives in Bali, no one, you know, writes books like this is just not happening. Like this was not my reality at all. And now I have, you know, friends in my 30s, who are financially retired. So I think like, once I opened up myself to, maybe there's something else. And I saw that other people are able to do it, so why can't I and I saw that, you know, it's happening to people who are just as capable as me. And so I just trusted that I have the skills as well, and that I have what it takes. And I always say, you know, I just need two or three people in the whole world who want to work with me. And, you know, doesn't sound that crazy anymore. Doesn't sound that impossible.
Michaela Light 8:07
Yes, eight point something billion people on the planet Exactly. For free.
Diana Grobelny 8:13
Exactly. Yeah. And also, I'm always like, you know, the worst thing that can happen is that I just go back to my old life, like, this is the worst case scenario, right? And just trusting that whatever I'm doing right now, it's a learning and it's pushing me into a new direction. And yeah, I mean, I hope I never have to go back. But this, this is really the that will be the like the worst case scenario, just staying. Just staying where I was.
Michaela Light 8:42
I'm sure that's a safety net. You know, you could always go back to your old company, or new one. Things you've done with your own business, I'm sure would only add value, whatever. Yeah, that's what you mentioned, you did some inner pro bono work. Tell us a bit more about what you did and what how it helps you.
Diana Grobelny 9:15
Well, it started probably during COVID When I took a meditation course online, and started, you know, just the whole spiritual world was I was always interested in it. I was always into astrology, but I didn't know much about this part of dive. And once I got into it, like it was during COVID Actually, it just opened up a whole new world like learning about, I think one of the books that made the biggest impact on me was the big leap by Gay Hendricks, I believe, which he talks talking about upper limit limiting beliefs, self sabotaging and I really saw myself in that and I realized like, where am I self sabotaging? whereby thing like, this is not even a possibility for me. And I started writing it down. And I know and also like looking for examples where, okay, this is a limiting belief because I actually see that it's possible for other people, right? So, yeah, it started there. And I've done a lot of work. And this is also why I want to take this break this year is because I wanted to dive deeper into the spiritual and I learned how to read tarot cards, I learned more about astrology. I did a lot of breath work. And yeah, just getting deeper into these topics as well. Because it is very important for me on a personal and on a business level.
Michaela Light 10:37
Help us understand more why it's important to you personally, build spiritual thing.
Diana Grobelny 10:45
Because it just shows you that. So every morning I pulled my tarot cards, right? And it's just like, What is the message for the day? And in sometimes, you know, I go deeper, sometimes it's like, okay, what is going to happen this week and different areas of my life business, relationship? friendships? And even if I see, okay, there's, there might be a challenge coming up in my in my business, I can ask, okay, well, how do I? What is it blocked? What is blocking me? Right? And it just makes me think about and reflect on what is going on internally right now? That is maybe blocking me in? Is it? Is it it? Is it a limiting belief? Is it a fear that I have isn't, you know, some doubts that I'm dealing with, or maybe some external. So it just makes me reflect more on what is going on. Except and not just being reactive, but actually proactive.
Michaela Light 11:39
Also is inspiring. How do you think tarot cards work? You have any idea?
Diana Grobelny 11:45
Well, I do think it's messages from the universe. And the cards are like, yeah, no, they just give you the message. And I mean, you can believe in it or not, I've done a lot of readings with people who don't believe in it, but it's somehow still resonated with them. And even if it's, even if it's not true, right, it still makes you think about it. And I personally believe that there is a higher power I do believe in, in spirit guides, and all of that. But even if you don't believe in it, just pulling a card every morning and reading the meaning of it. Yeah, it's like a prompt, right? Like, it can be a journal prompt, as well. And it makes you just reflect on different areas of your life. Same with astrology. You know, I look at what phases the moon in or what is going on currently in, in the stars. And it helps me just reflect about different areas of my life where maybe I would not be looking at.
Michaela Light 12:40
Tarot or astrology or other god, spiritual tools help you get more insights into the life business. Yeah. And then you can be proactive. Yeah, it's always a good thing. I think that's exactly. Either reactive or doing nothing.
Diana Grobelny 13:02
And I am a planner, right? Like, and people are always even surprised that I am into all of the spiritual things, because I am very analytical and very operations and very processes. But yeah, I think I've found a good balance between those two. And yes, I am a planner. And yes, I always have a backup plan. So even, you know, when I took this three months break, I knew exactly. I am able to financially to do this now. And what what, and I also had a backup plan of what I can do, if I don't find a client, right, that I would have to pay it put more into marketing and sales. So yeah.
Michaela Light 13:37
It's sounds to me that your marketing method right now is some form of spiritual attraction of ideal clients without being right. Or it definitely.
Diana Grobelny 13:48
Is. Yes, but it's not just, you know, I'm not just sitting in my room and meditating and hoping someone comes up. I'm, I would call it inspired actions. And it's like, following the signs, right. So I am going to events I am talking to people I am in different networks and communities where I'm still, even though I'm not looking for clients. I'm still having conversations. And yeah, so this is why I you know, this is why I'm saying like, I'm not just sitting in my room and hoping that someone will knock at my door, but I'm actually going out there and doing things that feel aligned.
Michaela Light 14:27
You think that attraction is helping?
Diana Grobelny 14:32
Attraction is not hoping but it's maybe being clear on what you want, and it's goal setting. So attraction is about understanding what you're looking for. And that way you are also projecting, you know what, what you're looking for. So, yeah, I think that's what it is for me.
Michaela Light 14:54
So you get clear about how many clients you want, what kind of clients they be maybe what kind work you want to do with them? Yeah. And clarity on when you want them. That's the goal. Yeah. And then what are you doing some spiritual practice to help bring that in?
Diana Grobelny 15:15
Write down meditation, journaling, intention setting. So this is where I work with the moon, right? So at full moon and new moon is where I'm setting my intentions, and becoming very clear. And it's actually funny. So like, recently, I was reading from my journal from a few years ago. And it was like a entry where I was like, saying, like, I wake up every morning, I look at the, at the ocean. And describing my day, I'm like, oh, where was I at that time? And then I realized I was still incorporate in Belgium, setting intentions. And I was literally like, this is exactly what happened just a year later. And, yeah, I think this was, yeah. And this is when I'm like, Okay, wow, this actually works. Exactly what I wrote down happened. And this is my life now. And I never would have imagined it was possible.
Michaela Light 16:06
Wow, what a miracle. Yeah. We are all powerful, manifesting being being likely. Everyone on the planet capable of doing this. Obviously, depending on circumstance, you take more inspired actions or more meditation, depending on where you're starting from. Now, when you say you meditate on your goal, what does that mean? You've got like some meditation music or visualizing or chanting the affirmation over and over? What's it look like? The some people listening may have no clue or meditating on calls even me.
Diana Grobelny 16:55
I'm, I've met him. I've been meditating for many years. But I would say I have like one practice that I stick to I alternate between a lot of guided meditations because I think that's really helpful for beginners. It's doing guided meditations. And like Joe Dispenza is quite popular thing where you really, you visualize a goal, and then you really get into it. And yeah, so meditating is for me about can be guided where I'm just letting the messages come to me. But sometimes it is about, okay, I'm really putting an intention, and I'm very focused on it. So this is also why I'm very intuitive. Like I, I follow. Every day, when I wake up, I don't I have a routine, but I'm also very flexible in it. So I just do what feels right. Sometimes it's meditating, sometimes it's dancing. Right. Sometimes it's going to the beach and, and journaling. So yeah, it can be Yeah, it just, I just follow my my gut feeling, which is also quite new. Because when I was in corporate, I was only following my head more than my gut.
Michaela Light 18:04
Well, let me we will talk a bit more about that. Later I am. I'll put a link into Joe Dispenza. is I guess, how the brain works and meditation kind of guy I first saw him in the movie, what the bleep? Do we know? I don't know if you saw that we came across the wave. And that was about 18 years ago. I think he got famous from that. And now he gives what have you been to any this workshop?
Diana Grobelny 18:38
I have not. No, not yet. I have our particular
Michaela Light 18:42
Brands. Events can be very polite. And I've listened to some guided meditations. And certainly if anyone's resonates really want listening, go check it out. He's also written several books well. Not so much on meditation, morals, spirituality, and healing your body. The topics. Now, I do want to dig a little bit more into you, you set a phrase, you do a Joe Dispenza meditation where you visualize your goal, visualize your goal, get into the goal. For me, I need to see more what you mean by visualizing goal getting it right me.
Diana Grobelny 19:31
So this is what I think manifesting is all about is getting into the feeling of already having what you want, right and because wanting creates How do you say, a distance to your goal? If you want something, you don't have it? So you need to have the feeling of already. I'm
Michaela Light 19:50
Just gonna interrupt you there. Say that again, because that's very important. Many people have goals that they want and you just said wanting is not where you want to be.
Diana Grobelny 20:00
Exactly, if you want something, it means you don't have it. So you have to get to the feeling of already having it, to really embody it because a want is always coming from scarcity, right? It means that you're actually coming from scarcity because you don't have what you want. So meditation and, and I believe actually Spencer's really good and in putting you into that state, is you already feel what it is, how it is to have it. And, and I think this is also in general very important because we, we often put goals like, you know, as entrepreneurs, we may have to make six figures, seven figures, but it's just a number, but what does it actually mean to have this number? Right? Like, what is the feeling that you actually want? And is it want to be like, What are your what is it that you are actually want to feel like? Is it just the money in your bank? Because that's not you know, that's not gonna make you happy? And we all know, like money alone doesn't make you happy? Is it the freedom that comes with it? Is it the the lifestyle that comes with it? So when you visualize what it means to have it, you're putting yourself into the state of already having it? And what would your day look like? And, and maybe, you know, maybe it's not even, maybe you don't even need the money that you think you need to have to get there, maybe it can be reached in another way. And abundance. And this is what I'm still working on abundance also for me doesn't only mean having clients, right, abundance can come in many forms and, and money can come in many forms. So I don't want to get too stuck on a number. But more about what does it How does it make me feel?
Michaela Light 21:41
Right, what's the crystal ball? Yeah, yeah, go ahead.
Diana Grobelny 21:45
And once you you are in this feeling, and you have you are in this state, you come out of the meditation. And this is what I mean by inspired action, suddenly, you see things differently, suddenly, you're Oh, this could get me there. Right. And this is also what I do in my you know, when in my journaling is like, what are the things that I can do every day? To make me feel? How I want to feel in the future? What does make me feel abundant? Right? Maybe it is with not setting an alarm in the morning? Or? Yeah, what is it exactly that makes me that I can do every day to get me to where I want.
Michaela Light 22:28
Beautiful and wonderful. You're obviously very good at meditating now have shown it many years. And I encourage everyone listening to try out different kinds of meditation, you know, sometimes we have an idea that meditation has to be done a certain way, you know, you have to be on a mountainside, you know, wearing a loincloth or something like a yogi, you have to be able to keep your mind totally focused, or whatever is the mantra or whatever. But inner mermaid, you said, You've got meditation, visualization dogs, very solid one. If anyone's allergic to the word meditation, just means strengthening your ability to focus on something. Whatever that might be, it might be looking, staring into a candle playing. That's another kind of meditation. I went to a singing meditation workshop where we were chanting mantras over and over again. So there are many different kinds, not all, have your mind silence, supposed to be empty at one point. And then people try and do that and then monkey mind chattering failings of the giver. Now, you mentioned the money and abundance are not the same thing. Quite a deep idea. How can you give some examples of how you could be abundant without having you know, whatever those numbers are money, explain a bit more people listening.
Diana Grobelny 24:15
I think my life and bad is a perfect sample for that. Because the money that I'm spending here on an abundant lifestyle is very would mean very different things in Europe, right? So oh, you know, having you know living in a villa with staff and a pool. This is not possible in Europe, but in Bali, it is very possible. In Europe, in Europe, it is possible in Europe. Now it is possible, of course it will not. It will cause a lot more exactly like it's not as accessible, I would say where it's here. And you don't need that much money to have this life. So I can have a very abundant lifestyle without spending a ton of money. And this is exactly what it means for me. It's Like, what? What is it actually what is actually important to me? Like, what do I want to be able to achieve? Is it a penthouse in New York? Or, you know, can it be in Bangkok? Because it's very different, right? Like, the cost is very different.
Michaela Light 25:14
Yes, we have a mutual friend, Justin Schoen, who was interviewed on TV about this, where he said he had a wonderful lifestyle in Bangkok. I'll take this art club put in. Basically, he was able to live as though he were a multimillionaire in Bangkok. Without having to have multiple millions. I mean, he's a wealthy guy to, you know, the lifestyle he can have there. On less money, it's amazing. Now, I just want to take that idea a bit further. You'll still talk about earning money and spending money to achieve it, using Gu OB are very, you know, be able to have the money. What about if someone gifted you the villa, you know, your house sitting? There was some way to get the result you want? What's happening, necessarily, there's nothing wrong with money, money, energy. But you experienced that at all, but you know, things show up?
Diana Grobelny 26:22
Yeah, for sure. Like, sometimes I'm, you know, I'm, you know, I meet people, and they invite me to things and then I'm like, this is, you know, I didn't spend the money to be here, but it's an it's a wonderful experience, like I'm on a boat, or, you know, it's, it's exactly that, like you can be gifted or you can have an opportunity to, to not link money or abundance to hard work. And yeah, I think this is this is for sure. It's still a challenge for me, because I am a hard worker. And even even if I'm talking now about, you know, attracting and setting intentions, I'm still working hard. And yeah. But this is exactly like the shift that we all need to do. And whenever you're
Michaela Light 27:06
Working hard, you mean doing the tasks in your online business manager business. What do you mean? Yeah, working hard at the meditating and
Diana Grobelny 27:15
Don't think no, no, no. I mean, I mean, actually, the business. Exactly. Yeah. Like the work I'm doing for my clients, right? Like, I am still a hard worker. And you know, it's not all just luck and chance that I'm, that I am where I am. But I've done the work, you know, and I also like, incorporate, like, I've acquired the skills needed and the knowledge. So yeah, but it doesn't have to be hard work equals abundance for sure. Now.
Michaela Light 27:46
It sounds like you're still working on separating out hard work and having the abundant lifestyle. Yeah. Yeah. I'm curious, have you ever read the 8020 book Bible? No. He, I mean, at the you know, the idea of age, you focus on 20% Things activities, you have these a center result, last sale, results for clients, health, or whatever. Or even in relationship, know what interactions you have with your daily love relationship. But the reason I bring him up, is that he wrote in one of his books, either and about 16. But one of them, he talks about his lifestyle, were you living in Portugal and thinking during the United States, again, and you know, he goes for a walk, he has a very open schedule, you still work in that thing. But he, he focuses on this small number of things that produce the most results and keep spraying them in a schedule. So if an opportunity comes up, to go meet with someone love a country or you know, get on a call, or whatever it is he if he wants to do.
Diana Grobelny 29:09
it this is also for me, like when it comes to marketing, because it was always a struggle for me. And when I first started, I thought I would have to, you know, be on social media and I was not comfortable with that at all. And then I was working with a business coach and he was telling me well, you know, if it's if it doesn't feel aligned to you don't do it. Do what feels aligned. And for me, this is this is networking. It's about going to events and actually having fun and just talking to people and not not being in the sales mindset at all. Because for me even a sales call, it's not about you know, selling something, it's about finding out if we can help each other and if we're a good fit.
Michaela Light 29:48
That's a good reframe. Enjoy the activity
And you don't have to do way a lot. A lot of things, businesses, we can choose, are we going to do this? Are we going to delegate some member of staff we have to hire someone else? Or are we just going to change our business model? We don't even have to do that kind of activity at all. A lot of breathing. And so if anyone listening has any other tasks you're doing in your week, like, oh, I have to do this I should do and maybe it's time to reflect or you Tareq. Get some inspiration. So, you've been doing this, aligning yourself with the flow? What benefits you've seen since you've started doing this? Well, it just,
Diana Grobelny 30:56
It feels right. Like, I don't I wake up, and I'm actually excited about what I'm doing. Because I know, it's, it's what I'm supposed to do. Right. And I'm not, I'm not taking opportunities that I that don't feel aligned. And that means that I'm working with people that I enjoy, I'm doing work that I enjoy. I Yeah, it's, it's also very different for me now, because again, coming from corporate, where, you know, you can't wait for the weekend, and you can't wait to just close your laptop and not think about work. But when it's your own business, it's actually fun to think about work. And again, like just doing the shift, like if you're in, in the right flow, and it just, it's just fun. And you of course, you're better at it. And of course, you you put in much better work in it as well.
Michaela Light 31:47
And how so you've avoided this avoid burnout, which I know a lot. Yeah. And that burnout could look like many different things, it could look like someone you know, you kind of don't really want to do the work, it could look like depression, could like, look like getting sick a lot. It also shows up with, you know, a fair number entrepreneurs I do are either talking about selling their business, or they're just not satisfied with that business. Yeah. I'd say at least the tips that the entrepreneurs I know are very talking about salary. Complaining. Yeah. So do you. You know, do you think that shifts to you when you're in the flow
Diana Grobelny 32:39
100%, I truly believe that burnout is when you're doing something that you don't enjoy doing, or that doesn't feel right. It's not about how many hours you work at all. You can get burnout. Just doing, you know, not working that much. But you're doing something that just, you don't want to do it like you wake up every morning, dreading it, that will put you in burnout. And I was in a situation in my corporate job, where I just, I couldn't, I just knew I didn't want to do this anymore. And this was, yeah. And then I did a shift internally, and it worked out much better. But also now it's not about and then and then when I you know, started my own business, and I was working weekends, and I was working all night to start my website. And it was fun. And I was in the morning excited to wake up and just on a Sunday morning to sit there and work. No way it would have burned out because I was so excited to do it. And it just felt so right that I didn't even want to sleep because I had so many ideas.
Michaela Light 33:40
Wow. How health has affected your health.
Diana Grobelny 33:47
I'm much healthier. I never get sick anymore. Knock on wood, but really? Yeah. I returned the last three years, you know, maybe a cold here and there. But whereas before, you know you always have like yeah, I was I always get like some sickness or like, you know, it was a lot of colds. But now I feel like my immune system is much stronger. Bless you. Yeah, I don't know, I my health is much better for sure. I have much, much more energy also. And this is what the my new lifestyle has allowed me to do is I don't have to stick to someone else's schedule. Like I eat when I'm hungry and not when it's lunchtime, right. I exercise when it's right for me and this is for me around you know, between nine and 12am 9am and 12pm. And not I don't have to wait until after work. So just again, like just doing what feels right for my body. My health is so much better.
Michaela Light 34:50
I think by going with this, aligning flow, and doing things you enjoy doing inspire you You know, void spots for us, I guess. Yeah. Do you feel breath? Do what you have?
Diana Grobelny 35:09
No, I still experience stress, of course, because you still have like, stressful client projects. You know, you have deadlines to meet. But again, like it's, it can also be positive stress, right? Like stress is not always negative. It's just maybe a high pressure moment.
Michaela Light 35:25
Call that stress of the
Diana Grobelny 35:28
Word. Yeah.
Michaela Light 35:31
Yeah. You stress.
Diana Grobelny 35:33
Yeah. But it's, you know, it's also some people just need deadlines to get things done. Like, I'm not like, I. I'm not like that, like I like to pre prepared. Yeah. But if I, yeah, if I have a deadline, this definitely puts me more into stress. And, like, when we have a launch of a client, or, you know, something's going wrong. Let's do like, I yeah, I do experience stress. But I also know it's a face and I will get over it. And you know, and there's always a question that how can we avoid it next time?
Michaela Light 36:08
That's a good point. Because, you know, you can't expect everything to go close, right? Tell us a bit more about how you deal with things at work when they don't go the way you originally wanted them to be? Because that's a reflection of how you dealt with not having clients. Right? Well, exactly. I mean, at one level, you set the intention not to have y&z Take a break, but at another level, you were like, Well, I'm gonna play this every month. Why? They stopped calling me.
Diana Grobelny 36:41
I think it's my per se trade that I, when there's a moment of crisis, I get very calm, and I don't freak out. And the person who like takes a step back, and it's like, okay, what actually happened, and this has saved me in many situations at work, when everyone else was like, Oh, my God, you know, everything's broken. I'm like, no, what actually happened. And then we realize, actually, it's not that bad. You know, we can fix it. And like, I'm, I'm a good problem solver, I would say, and I'm good at like, finding the mistake that led to it. Like it can be in an Excel sheet and formula that broke or something in a process that is broken. So what I do is I literally just take a step back and be like, Okay, it's not the end of the world, you know, we can save it, we just need to first assess what is the extra situation? What happened? How can we fix it right now? What is the workaround right now? And then also, I'm immediately thinking about what should have happened, what can we do next time to avoid it? And this can be and then you know, if it is the case of a launch, for instance, I will put it into the SOP as soon as I remember it. So that next time you know, when we review the SOP from the last launch, I see okay, this is what happened last time, and this is what we need to do this time to avoid it.
Michaela Light 37:56
For people just in case there's anyone listening doesn't know what is standard operating procedure. It's like, you document how the past if you don't I'm sure you do those clients all the time, or help them get the job to do them. A great tool for reducing craziness. Yeah. You mentioned you know, you have these meditation habits, learning of daily practice that you think help keep you aligned.
Diana Grobelny 38:29
So I realized my morning routine is very important to me. And also because you know, before coming to Bali, I was traveling for three years, and I was changing location every I was still slow, like every two to four months, but I was changing locations. And every location is very different. It's a new environment, it's new people, it's new gyms or, you know, yoga places and I realized like what keeps me stable, or grounded, it's my morning routine. And having us an even my morning routine, you know, I can still adjust it to depending on you know, when the gym class starts, for instance, but I know like what I need to do. I know I know I need a long morning before I can start work. And even even in corporate like I was waking up very early, because I need the time to wake up and to have this time for myself in the morning. I don't like to rush into work immediately. So yeah, I this is this is for me, right but I need to have the time where I just sit with my coffee and literally think about nothing. I like to have the time to journal to set my intentions for the day. Meditation and then exercise and yeah, so then and then I opened my laptop right so it's never I don't like immediately waking up and checking my slack or what is going on. Of course like if I know it's a guy like we're having a lunch I need to check I do it but in general like I I need to have my slow mornings. And this is also why this timezone works great for me because I have clients now in Europe and Middle East where you know, I have the time in the morning for myself.
Michaela Light 40:13
For you use the timezone to your benefit.
Way of work. And you mentioned the location, you said you you travel a bit, do you? Have you stopped traveling? Is that what you are implying that you're not doing? They're changing locations every few months.
Diana Grobelny 40:35
Yeah, I mean, for now I've stopped. I'm not saying ISIL forever. But for now, I found the base here. And I'm still taking trips. Of course, like I went to Thailand, you know, I spent also a month in Thailand. And I still want to do that. But I have a home base now. So that has changed that I have a place where I can put my stuff. And where I have a routine.
Michaela Light 41:02
What other habits do you have that you think help you stay alive?
Diana Grobelny 41:11
So for sure, like just the regular reflections, which are the new moon and full moon? Settings. But what else? I mean? I do when I need it. I feel like when I feel like okay, something is stuck. Something's not flowing. I'll do breath work, right. Like this is a very powerful tool for me, where I always have huge insights. So yeah, I've I before Bali I was in in Copenhagen, and I did like very strong breathwork sessions there. That really like released a lot of blocks.
Michaela Light 41:53
That's wonderful. So for people who haven't done or know what breath work is what, what does that mean, breathe in and out.
Diana Grobelny 42:00
Yeah, I think this is the most accessible tool for people who are not into the spirituality because it's really just breathing. You just lying there, and you breathe in a circular movement. So breathe in, breathe out, do it for like, I can be 15 minutes. And it's guided, like there's someone, like overseeing it, but there's not much else going on, you just breathe. And for some reason, that really releases a lot of blocks, a lot of emotions. You know, you might start crying and you don't even know why. But you have this release. And then afterwards, there's always a part of integration, where then the insights come and then like, Oh, this is why I cried or this is what shifted for me. So it's really just breathing. Yeah, but I like to do it in a guided environment. Maybe it's the energy of the other people. I'm sure you can also do it at home. But yeah, this is what I prefer.
Michaela Light 42:56
No, makes sense. I mean, I've heard it called Holotropic breathwork. If people who are trying to you know curious and they want to try it where they are, you could serve breathwork Holotropic breathwork Wim Hof. Now, like I said, we kind of chose five spots into it well, the breathing heartbeat is pretty similar. Pranayama is another name for the that's a yogic kind of thing we breathe that way. And I'll just say that from people who do vigorous exercise, whether it's for or running women, you know, both be quite meditative. And if you're running for you know some period of time you are going to be breathing deep oftentimes to find that helps them recruit through problems or even walking find regular whatever we know now you seem quite keen on spiritual stuff from using intuition in your business which is great I love that meet other people are open about this how would you say this has shifted your scenario journey? Because you didn't start when you started your business you on the way.
Diana Grobelny 44:17
Well, it's it's everything I said it's just the way I interact with potential clients with current clients with business opportunities is very different and and also the scarcity abundance mindset. So for instance, I think I would say that I'm quite generous with my knowledge and my time in general, because even with people who are technically competitors, I very openly share my behind the scenes I share my processes because I believe that first of all, there's more than enough clients for everyone. Second of all, I don't want to even work with everyone right? So I feel like the more I share, the more opportunities come back to me because I'm Yeah, I'm just again establishing connections and and then maybe they will introduce me to someone or maybe they're like, Okay, no, Deanna is good at that. So I will read it to her. And this happens all the time. So making the shift to abundance mindset in a business setting means for me that I'm sharing my knowledge with with other people or like with someone who just started out, and it's advice like I'm, I'm really, I'm happy to help always and to have a chat with with anyone just to see, you know, where this can lead, and maybe it will lead nowhere was this particular person, but maybe they will. It will lead to something else.
Michaela Light 45:42
No, that's a good thing. Would you say you are an advocate for raising business? Intuition?
Diana Grobelny 45:52
Yes, for sure. Yeah.
Michaela Light 45:54
What what makes you want to do that?
Diana Grobelny 46:00
Well, it's just the, it's just a better way to live. I would say like, you know, you're not forcing anything you're not. It's not this mentality of Well, now, I will work hard now and do something I hate because then maybe in five years, I will finally have the life I want. Now, I want to live good. I know how to live well, every single day. I'm done with this waiting for the weekend waiting for, for vacation, right? Like I want every day to be enjoyable. And it also this is also one of the reasons why I never took a break. Before was since I started working my clients, I didn't feel like I needed a break because I actually enjoyed my work. And yeah, so this is important for me is like, I want every day to be as as good as it can be. And I'm not waiting for something else.
Michaela Light 46:52
Yeah, I'd add onto I totally agree. And I'd add on some people in corporate jobs are waiting for retirement. Exactly. They hate their job, but they'll grind through it until they get their retirement. And it's quite sold as probate. Yeah. And then somewhat sadly, quite often, people who live that way, you know, a year or two off labor time, they lose the world live and die.
Diana Grobelny 47:17
Yeah. And also you don't have the energy, the same energy that you will know. Exactly. Yeah.
Michaela Light 47:26
I mean, the phrase that came to me is you're living heaven on earth, by doing this way. Yeah. And perhaps that's what, you know, some religious texts are referring to when they're talking about, you know, having it within all of us, as is how. You know, by living this way, you can create your own heaven, the new reality. And in the previous way, living, it might have been creating a personal hell for possibly for those around you too. Interesting. So, you know, I certainly want to spread this message of, you know, connect the spiritual serve, openly use your intuition in business. What would it take for entrepreneurs, to more openly embrace their business use the news?
Diana Grobelny 48:28
I wouldn't say it's that difficult. It's just learning how to trust your gut. Right? Like, it's really just, you know, you always know, you're always not the right decision. You're just looking for a logical reason. But what if you just do what feels right in that moment? And then you This is how you learn to trust your guests to get your gut because you will see that always leads you to the right answer. And yeah, I think we are still like, we're always trying to be in our head. And, and I'm the same, right, like, I am still a head person. And I'm still trying to justify my gut feeling. And this is even we know when you hire someone, I think we talked about this before, you know, I'm very intuitive when I'm hiring people. I already know if it's the right fit from the beginning. But then I'm trying to find a logical reason. And there usually is, but the first feeling is my gut feeling. And I don't want to ever go against it anymore. So I think just follow your gut. And even if maybe it doesn't make sense in that moment. We'll show you that. It's the it's the right way.
Michaela Light 49:43
Yeah, I wrote a whole chapter in my book on intuitive leadership mastery about how to do this. So it's always interesting to hear what other people are saying. On it. Is there anything else I was posted? who, you know, I could have asked you that I didn't you wished I'd asked you. You're
Diana Grobelny 50:08
Not really. I think we've covered quite a lot.
Michaela Light 50:11
We have. So if people want to find you online, how can they best do that?
Diana Grobelny 50:17
So I have a website. It's my name Deanna agrimony.com. And it's D ay ay nagrobelny.com. It's the same handle on Instagram. So Dr. Gurbani are on LinkedIn, you can also find me. And yeah, as I say, I'm always open to have a chat and just see, you know, where we can help each other or you know, so yeah, this is how they can reach me.
Michaela Light 50:46
Fabulous. Well, I'll put all those links in the show notes. Leadership mastery.com. And I really appreciate you coming on the podcast. Thank you so much.
