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Tricia Barker 0:11
Hello beautiful, light filled souls. I am so happy to be here today with a new guest. Okay, well light. And I'm fascinated by this book intuitive leadership mastery, how a conscious CEO doubled profits and half stress. You said that you wrote this about eight years ago. This is a personal, like desire of mine is to help people experience life with less stress and more abundance, more joy, more love more happiness. I can't wait to hear from you about this. But how did this How did writing this book change your direction?
Michaela Light 0:50
Well, my, you know, I started off, I did a math degree when I was very much younger. And I was very logical and didn't believe in religion and God and all that. And as I got older, I started getting more into personal growth, I actually had a little mini car accident, I didn't go away and leave my body like you did. But I had some injuries, I, you know, I got some physio, I did some yoga, and through that meditation, and I started going to put I started getting really into personal growth. And that led me to use my intuition in my business, way more. And that's where the genesis of this book came. And I had an intuition, I should write this book, to share with other people what I've been doing it myself, and also, you know, I, if you've, you've written a book, too, you know, for me, I from writing the book, I, I kind of understood new things that I sort of knew, but, you know, I hadn't crystallized them, as well. So
Tricia Barker 1:53
we were talking a little bit that before the show, and I encountered people sometimes who have blocks to finding their purpose or to bringing in money or to really using intuition to manifest more of what they want. So what what do you say to people who are blocked in a certain way, you know, like, they just aren't moving forward at this time, they're really finding challenges to moving forward with a dream?
Michaela Light 2:21
Well, I think first thing I would say is self kindness. And self acceptance would be where I'd start, it's hard to shift blocks without first accepting this is where I am, I did the best I could in the younger years of my life, which however I got here, whatever traumas I had, or past lives, or whatever it is that cause you to have these blocks. And then I would do personally, I would do magic work on the blocks or work with someone like Trisha, who does amazing healings, you can see the energy that's blocking you. I mean, my personal view is that humans are these wonderful spiritual creatures filled with light. And they just want to shine their light in different ways. Whatever your quotes purposes, we can talk about purpose later. But you know, if your purpose is to cut people's hair, it's to make it an amazing experience, and do these amazing haircuts and make people feel better about life, while you probably act as a little therapist with them while you're doing it, that's just an example. every job, every career, every role in life, if you're, you know, a stay at home parent, or whatever your role is grandmother grandfather has a purpose, I believe. And so we all come into this world filled with light. If you ever look at young babies, you know, less than three years old, you know, toddlers, usually unless they've had some unfortunate traumatic incident, they're just shining with joy shining full of energy bouncing around, possibly for the adults around maybe a bit too much energy, but you know, they're full of life. And then what happens? Why is it that the adults something happens, and my belief is that they get filled with negative beliefs and programming from their parents, from other people around them from schools from their first job from the government, from the TV from movies, all the media, and it just, it's like, you've got the shining light, and it's covered up with Aki stuff that stopped the light shining in certain directions. So, for example, if someone was an entrepreneur like I am, and often people have difficulty hiring and they hire someone who doesn't work out, and then they have what I would call a hiring scar in that part of their energy field, they're kind of reluctant to do that task, or they have this belief that I can't hire good people, or whatever the thing is, maybe it's around relationships. Maybe you had a bad breakup, or you had abuse and they like, oh, I don't think I can ever be with someone who loves me and I love them. whatever the area of life is, and I imagine, it's like, we've got these areas of life around us in a circle. And some of them are filled with dirt and mud. And we can't manifest easily in there. That's what I call a block. And perhaps probably, I think nearly every human has one area of their life where they can do great stuff, and they're not blocked, maybe it's, you know, exercising and being healthy, maybe it's relationship with their parents, maybe it's earning money, maybe it's bringing up children, you know, whatever it is, we all have different skills and abilities. And that's an area of our life where the light is shining. And you can, you can imagine if that areas, bright and shiny some other area, you clean up the windows in that area of her life, either by help from an energy healer, or through prayer, or through self healing. There are many modalities, but I think all the healing modalities really come down to adding more love and light into that area. And it just makes the dirt go away. So I
Tricia Barker 6:07
couldn't agree more. You know, when I came out of the near death experience of visited a hospital, a year later, a friend had had a bad accident, and I got lost, and I walked through the nursery area of that hospital. And there were these huge pictures of babies. And I just stopped and started laughing. Because I was looking in their eyes, I was like, Oh, this baby's a bunny here. I'm about a year I just came from that light. And I could see it in their eyes, you know, just that pure light in that place. And it's true, we probably as infants overwhelm our parents with our light. And that that happened in a past life regression, I saw myself coming into a family where it was just too much for that family. So I think, you know, at times, you know, a lot of our wounds are because people around us couldn't actually handle our lights. It's not because anything was wrong with us, you know, we diminish our lights in order to fit in at times, and that I'm sure in the business world that happens, you know, and what has been the challenge about using intuition in the business world?
Michaela Light 7:16
Well, when I started using a really, you know, this was, before I wrote the book, I think, maybe a year or two, before I used it, I kind of made this conscious decision that I'm going to use it and be public about it. And you know, I don't care what others think. But I still was afraid I had, you know, I kind of was afraid and did it anyway. And at what I discovered, I'm in an entrepreneur group for online location independent entrepreneurs. And among that group, about a third, were like, wow, yeah, other people are like that, too. I'm so glad you admit that you do this, and let's chat. A third, we're like, open to the idea. This, oh, this could be helpful. I could see how that could be helpful. I don't know how to do it myself. I'm curious about our third world, this is a bunch of BS, we will, whatever. And we're not even going there. So. But interestingly, among the third who were like, you know, we don't believe in this. Some of them would come back six months later, and they're like, you know, Mikayla, we, you know, I still think you're woowoo batshit. Crazy, but you're actually right about that thing, you. Slowly, they come around, and I have a question I use in that group is so what would it take or WWI T. And I use that a lot. And they actually that's got very, you know, a lot of people just use it in there. And that's accessing it. That's an easy way for people to access their intuition. So I've got a problem. I think I'm answering the question you haven't asked yet?
Tricia Barker 9:00
Yeah, no, it's a great question. What would it take question? And how is that different from the how question, you know, how are we going to do this? You know, how do we get here?
Michaela Light 9:12
Yeah, so in life's, whether you're an employee or an entrepreneur or mom or whatever, and we have a problem, okay, maybe you need more sales this month, maybe you want to get a raise, maybe you want your kid to behave better, whatever it is. And often we ask, How can I get more sales? How can I get that raise? How can I get my child better? And the problem was how there's no there's nothing, you know, I'm not saying how totally terrible but how focus is your brain to search for the exact method or or way to do that, and it closes you off to all the other ways you could solve that problem. Maybe a friend could help maybe you could hire someone to help you maybe angels We'll help you do it, maybe you'll get, you'll go for a walk in the woods and get a sudden inspiration that, you know, helps you move forward. And the other problem with how is how is kind of expecting not only do you get the first baby step towards solving it, but you get every single other step. It's like, how do I climb Mount Everest? Well, you've got to take, you know, 30,000 steps, and they have to be perfect in this way. And it's like, you're never gonna get that plan. But what you can get, as you see, there's somebody at the mountain, I'm going in the right direction, I'm taking one step at the reader. Oh, I see a Sherpa there. Hi, Mr. Sherpa, would you like me to pay you some money? So you can help me up the mountain? You know, this? What would it take opens up your intuition. I sort of think of it as like, you know, when you type into Google or one of those other search engines, and it goes away and searches, the same with questions, all questions, do this, but what would it take is particularly good at this, for it opens up your intuition or your subconscious to start thinking of answers. And the other thing I want to say about it, is how sort of implies you personally have to do all the work. This is not true. You can solve problems without doing any work. So because it might resolve itself, it might be that you hire someone who deals with it. It might be the other person shifts, you know, there's so many possibilities here. Yeah, you know, with health issues, as you you know, from I love your book, by the way, and from your story, you know, doctors kept telling you, oh, no, you'll never walk again, or you'll never be able to do this. And it's like, you had a spontaneous healing, you know, through the help of angels. Yeah. And if you, you know, sorry, go ahead time for you to to
Tricia Barker 11:47
I love what you're saying, I just want to encourage it, you know, like the, the people who contact me and I wonder if you have people in your group who struggle with the, this the 1/3, who are interested, and they want to use intuition, but they don't know if it's fear that they're hearing or if it's just basic creativity, I generally say, hey, there's nothing wrong with creativity, creativity can very well be intuition. You know, it's just coming in a form that we recognize in this way, that doesn't scare us. So I love it, that you get people to the creative part of their brain, because that's where the ideas can flow in. And that's where intuition can come in.
Michaela Light 12:27
Well, I think for people listening who feel their blocks in they can't get intuition or whatever, they don't aren't able to talk to their angels. What I would say is, firstly, schools and society programmers not be able to do this, you know, often young children have imaginary friends, for example. And that's accepted for young children, but by the time they get to school, oh, no, you shouldn't talk about that. That's shameful, as bad. And in some circles is actually labeled as evil. You know, there's a some Christian churches that if you have intuitive messages, oh, that must be the devil talking. Well, what a way to shut down your intuition. So there are many reasons why intuition and then also in in, you know, university or in jobs, people expect you to answer the hell question like, okay, you've suddenly got this intuition. We're going to make more sales by this. Well, how do you know that? Oh, it was my gut talking, oh, that's generally in business not seen as a good thing. You know, like, Oh, I did research and I talked to this professor and blah, blah, blah. And I've spent hours and hours struggling to come up with a plan. That's an acceptable answer. But I got a sudden inspiration from God, that's generally not kind of the way to go in a in a fortune 500 business meeting. So personally, I think it'd be totally acceptable.
Tricia Barker 14:00
I love it that about 1/3 are doing that anyway. And maybe either, you know, don't talk about it openly or just, you know, just use it just know that it's a part of who they are. Now, in this world the last couple of years, especially this last year. Why is intuition important now, right now?
Michaela Light 14:22
Well, the world has got a little loopy. doopy crazy chaotic, you know? We've had, what is it? COVID. We had a war in Ukraine. We've got monkey pox. We've got inflation. We've got a recession. We had the Disney versus Florida crisis we had I can't even remember all the narrative the Black Lives Matters. Okay, kinds of I think people are overwhelmed. You know, there's so many narrative shifts like this is the thing you're supposed to be upset about. And It used to be those maybe one of those a year, perhaps. And now it seems this one every other week. And it's just too much. And in addition, things are not working as well, either in the 3d plane, you know, sometimes the electricity is out or the price of your, you know, your gas bill has gone up, where you can't find your favorite food or you, I was trying to buy some leggings the other day, and that Amazon was so sold out, there was a supply chain, whatever you call it, you know, crisis delay, blip, whatever you call that thing. And then in addition, it seems a lot of people are really kind of angry, you know, a lot of road rage, I was talking to a friend from the States, okay, it is here in Peru, and she said she was just in a parking lot. And she saw this grandma slowly backing out of the supermarket parking space. And it wasn't quick enough for the other person who wants to use the space. And he's only yelling at his grandma. And it's like, Could you be a little kind? You know what, but I understand why he's not I wasn't really upset at grandma, he's having a very frustrating time in his life. So why is intuition important? It helps to navigate this I, one way to visualize this, imagine you're in the ocean, you know, the beach, and there are these big waves rolling in. And if you've got your intuition you're aware of when the next wave is, and you can bob up and down. If you're kind of not looking in the direction of the wave to see your intuition, the wave will splash over you and knock you over. And then you'll be gulping sea water, which way do you want to live?
Tricia Barker 16:43
Right, right in the flow of joy and in the flow of where you need to be. And you know, that I, I often think about this at the beginning of the pandemic, when we were in lockdown here in Texas, there was someone who had to buy bulk food. And he wanted, she was in front of me in line and he wanted a smaller amount than they put it in bulk and, and at first, I was kind of frustrated when I was standing behind them. And then I looked at his food and he had beans and pizza. And then he only had a few dollars in his hand. And I was like, Oh, he doesn't have enough money for beans and pizza. And he's he's upset that he can't get someone to half this amount of beans. And so I just paid for his food. And in that moment, I knew I'd done something, right? Because I picked up on this desperation that he you know, might ask to steal, he might have to do something, you know, like he was just in a place and I'm like, kindness can prevent so much negativity down the line, you know that that's what we forget, when you choose to be kind, even just a smile to someone. That's what we often see in our life review is that we added like, we added joy, we added peace, you know, to disharmony in places. So totally agree like we are navigating things. When it comes to business. It seems like things change. So quickly, did you get an intuition that oh, you know, this, this change is coming up, I better, you know, shift gears and this way,
Michaela Light 18:12
I didn't get a direct message. Let me just say that different people hear they're into quotes, hear their intuition, different ways. So if you're not hearing angel voices in your head, that doesn't mean you're not getting hearing your intuition, you might see visuals, you might have an amazing dream that gives you insight, you know, you might bump into the right person at the right time you might be if you're into reading the Bible, you might open the Bible a random page and see, oh, that passage applies to my situation, or whatever book you use to do that, or you might draw tarot cards, or whatever the or you might pay attention to animals. I mean, there's a whole study of like, you see an animal and you interpret that to give you information. One thing that
Tricia Barker 18:56
I'm curious about I know that many people feel guilty around using intuition hidden making money, or really just even the topic of money and it's it's a deep like seated fear in people. And I see this at this conditioning level, especially in the States, we get very much attacked, you know, by writing a book to make money or you know, doing anything in the spiritual realm to make money and maybe that's because we've seen people abuse it, you know, different evangelical ministers who have have abused us or we've seen various ministers who, who accumulate too much wealth, but most of the time people strike me as sincere and as just wanting to share their light and shine their light the way you're talking about. What do you say to people? Or what what do you help them with when they really encounter that kind of deep seated block around using intuition and making money?
Michaela Light 19:59
Money is just stingy. And it's just when we were talking about that different directions we could shine a light in money is just one direction just like health or family or whatever area of our life. And so let me answer that question in one way, which is changed the conversation to health? Would you be feeling guilty if you were working out or eating healthy or you know, whatever you're doing getting extra sleep to be even more healthy, and you're guilty that you've accumulated too much health? And maybe you should be a bit sicker to help out this the unhealthy people in Ethiopia or something? You know? And, um, what about that minister who's super healthy? I mean, that's so bad. So it's ridiculous, isn't it? You'd never think that but we do that with money and wealth and health. Just two aspects of shining a light. And I coming back to that phrase, you use the minister who was close to wealthy? What the heck does that mean, too? How can you be too wealthy? How can you be too healthy? How can you be too happy? How can you be too spiritual? How can you be too loving?
Tricia Barker 21:09
Right? It's not the money. That's the problem. I think, you know, in my town or not my town, but in my state, a lot of people criticize Joel Olsteen, who, you know, has multimillion dollar home? And
Michaela Light 21:23
I would say, good, good for him for having that money. Yes. Maybe the way he earned it is not ideal. Perhaps that's what they're really saying. Exactly. I think nothing wrong in having millions or billions or trillions of dollars. Yeah, it's just the energy.
Tricia Barker 21:40
Exactly. He's criticized by not helping people during times of disaster or not being charitable enough. And, and you know, looking at the world, it's
Michaela Light 21:49
his, it's his money. Most people have lots of blocks around money, just like they have blocks around intuition. To be honest, society, and school teaches us to be guilty about making money, they teach us you got to work hard for the money. Money doesn't grow on trees, there's all kinds of wacky beliefs around money. And it keeps people small, you know, and I won't delve down into the tangent as to why society might be created that way. But if you want to change your own money situation, you need to do some cleanup, in your own money, beliefs, that your parents may have passed on to you, you may have learned at school. I mean, school typically doesn't even have classes about money, and how to pay your bills in a good way and how to earn money and invest and what have you. You know, I know a friend Why not a very basic skill.
Tricia Barker 22:44
A friend of mine in college took that exact class because she had a single mom who actually handed her the checkbook and said, Look, I don't have the money to for you to go on this trip. But if you can find a way with all of my money, you know, you pay all the bills, if you find a way, I'll send you on this trip. And she saw that her mom didn't have the money. So as soon as she got to college, she was like, Okay, I'm gonna save while I'm young. And she figured out this formula that actually really helped her and I look back and I was like, of all my friends, we all should have been required to take that course. Like it was to help guide her in this way. That was just there was nothing wrong with saving money in her 20s She had a health scare in her 30s traveled around the world hiked Mount Kilimanjaro, you know, like, Did did a lot of cool things, because she had a savings.
Michaela Light 23:33
So yeah, I wanted an empowering move from her mother. I mean, I don't know if she thought it through, or she just was desperate to kind of head off an argument with a daughter, but either way that so impaired her to her daughter. And here's another thing, a lot of Americans, this isn't true of all societies. It's taboo to talk about money. Yeah. What how much do people earn? You know, in other countries? That's a very common open question. But in America, No, you mustn't talk about that. You know. So there's a lot of baggage around money. I mean, it is only energy and you can you coming back to your question like I think you asked, Is it bad to use your intuition to attract money or to make more so of course, it's not bad. You know, I mean, it's God is in everything. Yeah. Is in every person. Everything every mountain, every tree, every bird, every animal, and every dollar bill. Yeah, on every little zero in your bank account, all of that is God. How can God be bad? How can you feel guilty for helping, multiply go out and multiply was one of the things I know is applied to having kids but it also applies to creating wonderful things, be creative. And if you create a new project Write value to other humans. What we do in our current society is they usually give you money for doing it. And the better job you do of solving other people's problems and giving them value and providing wonderful customer service, or whatever it is you do, the more money you can get. And to take it a step further, the more you can organize your business and hire fabulous employees, and figure out creatively how to attract your ideal customers. Again, the more money you know, to win even other level, and there's no limit.
Tricia Barker 25:34
So I have a question since you brought up God, what is God in your view?
Michaela Light 25:39
I think God, as I said, is in everything. And everyone is part of God, it's like a holographic thing. In other words, there's a hole, which is God, total. But if you break a hologram into pieces, each piece contains a perfect image of God and each human contains a perfect image above were made in God's image to use a more Christian metaphor. And so but when you put it together into everything in the, in the whole of creation, it's a much more powerful consciousness than our individual consciousness typically, typically are. And we all can connect with that super intelligence to use a different phrase from someone who I'm forgetting the name of, but super intelligence is like, or super, super consciousness is like, regular consciousness and subconsciousness. So you've got those three and superconscious is, is the whole God, force or creation. And it my, as far as I can tell, it, likes to have different experiences through all the different pieces of it. You know, you me, everyone listening all the animals and birds, the mountains, they all have different experiences. And it likes, it seems to like people in you know, having joy, you know, and doing stuff joyfully. But it's also open to experiencing other experiences, you know, darker, traumatic, or whatever. It's, it's very accepting.
Tricia Barker 27:15
But well, I'll ask another question connected to near death experiencers, a lot of us have trouble describing our experiences. And I'm sure you've seen some of the James Webb Telescope images coming out. And I have trouble until I saw one of those images. And I was like, oh, that's where I had my life review was in a starscape, like this hologram of pieces of my life. But it was like a dreamscape that just kind of went into the stars and went away. And God seemed to be this greater intelligence, or the minute I was outside of my body, I was connected to an intelligence that was so much more than me that I could not feel bad about having to leave me like I was just this physical body was just this individual container. And suddenly, I was connected to this greater intelligence that, yes, was empathetic, was accepting, and only wanted me to have more love and more joy, and more love for others, you know, like, There didn't seem to be this direction to not judge, you know, to not judge people and to really be in the state of, of joy, like a child. And I mean, it's interesting that you're bringing up that child metaphor, because that was part of what I heard from God was be like a little child.
Michaela Light 28:35
Yeah, I mean, obviously. I mean, to me, God is much bigger than one human but and a little child can be very godlike. They're just full of gurgling light and curiosity and joy, and they want to help others have a good time. And I what I'm going to say is, you know, if you imagine little children of filled with light, or God, or what have you want to say it. And then as we get older, we get covered up with trauma and other beliefs that cover up that light. I just want to add in as people get older, as they get nearer to when they think they might die, often that darkness falls away. And often older people are also full of joy and kind, not every older person. I know some older people who aren't that way, but a lot of them become more childlike and laugh more and help people out and do things for the joy of it. And it's almost like the two ends of the human life experience. They're almost mirrors of each other. I'll add one other thing little children don't really have gender. I mean, obviously they're boys or girls, but they don't really have a strong gender expression when people go through adolescence and adulthood. This is kind of a more of a separation into into male and female but as people age, women start getting hairs on their face and they become more assertive. Typically, men often come gentler. They may sometimes the breasts get because this kind of merging back to the infinite occurs, yeah, it's very interesting.
Tricia Barker 30:07
My grandmother is in a unit for memory care. And when I saw her last, she was like a little child. And I was so happy, because I got to ask her some questions that, you know, like, my religious family probably wouldn't appreciate it. But I was like, Hey, she was real playful. And she's like, the things we talked about, that don't even matter. And I was like, I know. And so we connected and I said, Hey, do you think that you're gonna come back? Do you think that when you leave your body, you're gonna come back and get another one. And she was like, probably. And I was like, Oh, she would never have said that, like the, the less playful version of herself before dementia, you know, because of fear of judgment. But she's in this playful state where we can talk about death, we can talk about the afterlife, we can talk about these things, like, like children with this joy. And so it was really beautiful to see.
Michaela Light 31:02
Well, it's interesting. I mean, my mother had dementia before she died. And it's what it's like, she did a lot of napping in the afternoon. And I think she had, she was in another dimension, she couldn't really understand the third dimension. So well, and an example of that in the TV Guide. They give the time of the show, and she had some favorite shows she liked to watch. And but what she would do she take the remote control. And instead of putting in Channel Nine, you know, at 10am, she put in 10 1000, for 10am, thinking that would make the time change. In her reality, you shift time backwards, forward, sideways, anything you liked, and then she get frustrated her showed.
Tricia Barker 31:44
That's great, though she was time traveling.
Michaela Light 31:47
Yeah, so I think a lot of people have dementia, or various mental illnesses like schizophrenia, for example, my mother had a bit of that when she's younger. And I, I actually think my mother was actually very intuitive and spiritual, which, because of the constraints of 1950s and 60s society, she just didn't know how to handle it. And so when you know the definition, I don't know the exact definition, schizophrenia. But one of the things that happens is people hear voices, oh, my goodness, isn't that what people are intuitive or connected with angels or God do? Maybe some of those schizophrenics are actually like, hyper tuned into other dimensions. Same with young kids who hear voices, maybe they also are tuned into angels. So all fairies or whatever. So I think I think we're coming to a shift now in our reality, where people open up to this, and that's why I wrote that book. That's why I run my podcast, it's to open people up to this, because it will make your life easier, you can be more abundant, more healthy, and just not have to struggle so much anymore.
Tricia Barker 32:53
I had this intuition after my near death experience, I started encountering entities at times, and some of these experiences were really intense, you know, where machinery was being messed with where, you know, like, we were all conscious that something was happening in the room messing with all of our phones, or laptops. And so I just did this clearing, because I knew there was an entity there sent it, this portal that I went into that, you know, I just knew from my near death experience, and the entity left and was very happy to go to that light. And it was, I didn't question it. I just did it with authority. And did it in that moment. But later, you know, I've begun to have questions about removing entities. And so I'd love to hear some of your stories about removing entities from Ghost and people.
Michaela Light 33:41
Absolutely. So there are entities all around us, ghosts are all around us, that tend to be more ghosts. So just to clarify, I'm calling a ghost the human spirit that's died, but didn't make it to the light for whatever reason. You know, for example, if they died in a car accident, and they weren't expecting to die, or they were in a terrible battle in a war, like the Civil War, and they you know, they again, they weren't planning on dying and they don't really accept that they've died, or they've got strong feelings of vengeance against someone they don't want to leave the planet or they have strong chords with family members and you know, they have difficulty leaving so and then entities are not a nonhuman spiritual entities I can't think of another word for you know beings. Typically, not always, but typically they're weaker than humans and certainly weaker than any living human. We're living humans are so full of light. We are so much more powerful than any of these ghosts and antsy so anyone listening who's like afraid of ghosts are a bit nervous. You If you connect you to God, you connect to Mother Earth below you and you shine your light and like you say you're like, you command them to go to the light or you ask your angels to help with that death. effing going There ain't a question here, you might have to do a little more tweaking if they're more attached or more powerful, but there's nothing to be afraid of. And it's a service, the truth is, every being wants to go back to God back to the light. And now they may be a little afraid, okay? Because they've been there for maybe for years, or hundreds years or 1000s of years. And they're a little nervous going to lie Oh, is it going to be nice? You know, will they have ice cream, you know, I'm not sure I want to go, but just encourage them lovingly, and then firmly send them to light. So I've done this for hundreds of 1000s of entities. It's, you know, I learned it from a woman called Christine Marie Sheldon, who does intuition training, which I took. And I was a bit nervous doing it at first. And I got better at it. And I've sometimes had problems because on this planet, there are some entities that are like teeny tiny, like mice and it like, and there are other entities that are like 50 feet tall demons, you know, that are doing naughty things. And they may need a little bit more oomph to get them to go. And they may be more attached and maybe a bit more powerful magically. So either you increase your own paths and skills do that or you get you get help from other light workers to send them to light.
Tricia Barker 36:22
I am, I'm fascinated by people who buy places that are haunted. And I have a client who bought a very haunted house. And she shed said she had to get three different workers to work with her on that house, and kind of change that energy around it. Because sometimes you don't have enough power is yourself. I used to go in with a friend, Clyde and he would bring different people. And we would go into people's houses and do this, but he knew he was like, Hey, you might be the one that's talking to it. But you let's have as many people as we can here that are centering the lights and really, you know, clear this for people. So it's, it is cool. Why do you think this is something that quite a bit I've wondered about? Like, I don't know, if you know about Zach Baggins, the Haunted Museum in New Orleans, I saw a are in Vegas, but I saw a quick clip about that. And I thought I don't want to go in there the energy if certain objects seems very heavy, very dense, it's not that I would be afraid or attacked. It's just that energy is very low. And I could sense it even from the TV show. Like it's like, you know, there's high levels of energy. And then there's this lower lower level. So maybe what you're talking about about some of these tougher entities, it's just the frequency is almost like when you hear a low hum, or you just kind of walk in somewhere, you know, the beats, your heart changes, I think I can just kind of feel it intuitively. Why do you? Why do we not clear all these things? Yeah, like, what is it? Hey, say, hey, I want some Lightworkers to come in and clear all this negativity or these famous haunted places? Why do you think, you know, we aren't clearing them.
Michaela Light 38:00
Some people are afraid some people know you can clear a space of ghosts or low energy. And let me just say that it's not just ghosts or entities. There's also buildings do do if a trauma happens in a building like a murder, or rape or in a hotel room, sensitive people can feel something has happened there, or a battlefield. Or, for example, I went to the killing fields in Cambodia, oh my god, the energy is low there. And I spent two hours meditating, doing my own part to clean up that and help any spirits go like as best I could. And then I was totally exhausted how to have a nap. So you can clean and I set that intention for all spaces, I go to wherever I travel, I do it from my own apartment whenever I'm traveling, that I set an automatic intention that that space is automatically cleaned. Now why do people not do this, some people don't even know it exists, they just kind of don't feel so good there. But they don't realize it's low energy or entities are the people with entities if you take mind altering substances, like alcohol, or drugs and fees, or, or, or have sex or I can't think of the other things, but the things we do that just open up our energy field, and it's easy for entities to pop in. And what I see I used to drink a lot when I was younger. And what I see now is at bars often it's like entities, you know, swapping thing, you know entities, this person has three entities that are a bit bored with sucking the energy of that person because entities often suck your energy. And so they like oh look with someone else strongly. I'm gonna pop over there. Why don't we swap bodies you know? So same with random sex with people, right? That is also an opportunity because when people have sex and have orgasms that energy just feels wide open is an easy opportunity for stuff to come in if you're not conscious. So and then some people are afraid to deal with it. entities and ghosts are clearing space or they're, we as we talked earlier, they're afraid to use their intuition or magical abilities. And there's nothing wrong with magical abilities. Jesus did magic healings all the time, he raised people from the dead, he turned water into wine. And he I forget the exact quote, you probably can help me better on this. But I think he said, like, all of you can do these things. Yeah, he said something to that effect. Yeah. So
Tricia Barker 40:23
you know, when you do it with an innocence, that's what I found, when I do it with confidence and a sense of light, it does seem pretty easy to clarify these entities, it doesn't seem difficult. It's only when I overthink it, instead of realizing like, Oh, I am connected to the most powerful source of light. You know, God wants us to have beautiful experiences, let's clear this space. And, you know, as you're, you're talking about drugs and alcohol, I don't talk about this enough. I'm so glad you brought it up. But I lived in New Orleans. And this is after my near death experience. And I was afraid in many ways to delve into that party zone. That wasn't where I wanted to spend my time. But I would set out on Bourbon Street, and I met this artist and we would watch the drunk people go by and they'd get really drunk, like the diff, different conventions. And we started to see spirits enter their body and change their faces. And so like I saw a pair of like this guy, he had a pirate behind him. The pirate got inside of him, and they were his parents. And I was like, Oh, my God, he just has been possessed by some ghost for a moment. And it really shocked me that it was that intense, you know that when you're deeply altered and not conscious? You know, there's a lot more going on that we're not aware of?
Michaela Light 41:43
Well, I would say possession is actually a lot more common than most Americans think. And I don't know what the percentage is. But I'd say easily more than half of Americans are currently possessed. Now, it doesn't mean they look like a pirate, but it does mean maybe they say mean words when they didn't mean to. Or they like didn't mean to have that extra line of cocaine, but like, oh, they just got crazy, inadequate role. You know, when people say, I know, it sounds like an excuse for someone to say, Oh, I wasn't myself when I did this bad thing. But it may actually be literally true. They may have you know, it may have been the entity who was being naughty. And I think of them less as evil and more like naughty children playing. You know, I encourage people to remove entities from themselves every day. It's like taking a shower. Would you go through your life never taking a shower? Probably not. You know. And I'd also say things to do everyday is cut cords with everyone cords, a negative connections of energy, where someone's draining your energy. And there's a fabulous book calls hands healing hands light. I think it's by Barbara Brennan. I don't know if you've seen it. But it has some amazing illustrations in it the show a man and woman together and the man's kind of this abusive energy and she's this victim energy and he's got this hook of cord into her third chakra and he's sucking her energy out. And she's giving her energy through a heart energy. It's like, wow, it just kind of very interesting what people get up to. Yeah,
Tricia Barker 43:11
I love using salt, sea salt scrubs. Kind of visualizing, you know, as I shower. And I got this Yes. See, Ryan's who I interviewed. You know, like, if you shower in the morning and evening, why not just energetically cleanse yourself of everything? Yes.
Michaela Light 43:26
Well, I'm gonna say something that may be a bit extreme for some people listening, which is I in my hot shower with the culture. And it's a bit unpleasant. But I feel sparkling and full of energy. And it has other physical health benefits, but I think it does. I don't think entities or any little entities or things can deal with that, you know, shock. And I've also done those, you know, the ice bath thing that Wim Hof does, and if you have a bath of ice cold water with ice cubes floating around in it, and then you get in the bath, and believe me, it is very, very cold. But after about 15 seconds, it doesn't feel cold. And what I've noticed when I watch other people do this, because I've led groups that have done this is the entities just leave and after we're done. There's all a psychic debris in the room, and people feel wonderful afterwards. So I'm not saying you need to do that. But I'm just saying there are many ways saunas, I think, may do something similar. You know, people generally feel wonderful after going to a sauna. And I think there's something similar that goes on.
Tricia Barker 44:33
Yeah, there's, you know, Yoga has certainly helped move energy through, you know, me, I felt energy gets stuck, you know, I guess i chi and yoga, believe it or not, and I was resistant to take me, you know, but, but it's great. It's a wonderful,
Michaela Light 44:48
yes. Well, I read the biography of who's that kung fu to. Hong Kong American guy died in the 60s or 70s. is to track on Bruce Lee Yes, he I read his biography or our and he was an amazingly, together guy and spirit. Sure, I mean, he was in the 60s. So we have to give him a little bit of whatever. But he used that chi, you know, when I'm not into fighting, but it is interesting intellectually for me to understand this. And when he punched or kicked, it was not just the physical arm moving, he's moving chi, if you watched him energetically, he is doing amazing things with his energy. And that's what a lot of his meditations and practice with Tai Chi or whatever the equivalent is that he did was about it was about learning to use this energy. And for defense and, and the philosophy of Kung Fu, and most of those Eastern martial arts is it's only for defense, you're not to use it to hurt people who aren't attacking you or others that are, you know, innocent. So it's very interesting. And the same is true for anything else. In the 3d world. There's a, there's a 3d component, right. And then there's an energetic component. So if you want to manifest a goal, maybe you want to get a new job, maybe you want a new relationship partner that's doing 3d stuff, but part of it's sending that energy out to manifest that happening. So it's easier to create kind of clears the route of debris. And maybe you take those inspired actions along the way. Or maybe it comes to you serendipitously, I had an experience this year, I needed someone to help me with a particular job in my business. I didn't advertise the job. I didn't really try hard, I just thought about it. And like three days later, an entrepreneurial friend of mine said, I'm laying off this wonderful person who does exactly what you need. They didn't know what I need, by the way, just so we're clear here. And I just slept on it and interviewed him. And then yeah, you're hired. And that's how serendipitously the flow can happen in your life. When you clear the blocks, and you put out an intention, and you're open to unexpected opportunities.
Tricia Barker 47:08
Yes, I've experienced so many moments like that, that I quit doubting that the minute you're enjoy, the minute you're in gratitude, the minute you just put it out there like hey, I need this. I would love to meet this type of person to help me with this project. They show up kind of they really do show up. You mentioned though animals earlier so animals as a form of intuition seeing them. I don't know why and I've looked up the spiritual meaning of it, but I see hawks all the time. I mean, they they come close to me, they circle around me they have been they are a hawk is one of my spiritual totems, you know, without a doubt. And so part of that is seeing the big picture, you know, and I think of my soul kind of floating away from my body during that near death experience and getting a bigger picture of what's important when coming back here and hawks do remind you of that because they can zero in on a target to and fly faster than then imaginable towards their target but they also know they're predators. They kill you know, they they kill to eat and it's it's fascinating.
Michaela Light 48:18
To get you into a secret Tricia every living being killed sweet in one way or another. When you go to the supermarket pick up potatoes that would kick either Well, I guess potatoes are still living in the supermarket, but they're gonna get killed when you boil them or fry them pretty rapidly. Or even if you eat potatoes or not, you wouldn't eat potatoes or even if you eat lettuce raw, those letters cells are still living and then they go in and get munched up and then they go into the house and your stomach and guess what they die. And even trees are living off decaying matter that went into the soil and was composted through fungi and bacteria. Life is a cycle. And you know, as long as you're not gratuitous asleep killing for murder, or just because you like killing, it's natural.
Tricia Barker 49:08
Are you seeing certain animals as totems Are you? Are you attracted to that?
Michaela Light 49:14
Well, I'm wearing these I love you can see them i For those watching on video, I've got this cute llama earring. So llamas are a symbol of strength a month and stubbornness as well. Or persistence would be a more positive way to label stubbornness. They're also great at spitting not that something. So with any totem animal, and I also I I've got a little tattoo of a spider on my arm I got 20 plus years ago, because spider is a sensitive to energy like me as intuitive spiritual person, very patient waiting in their web. They're very creative, you know, making a web pretty complicated if you're a little insect in the webs. I mean if we were spiders that the web would be the size of enormous office building. Can you imagine trying to create that? It's like, wow. And yeah. So and then of course, they have eight legs, which is corresponds to the number eight turns side symbol for infinity or God or light. So, you know, and writing, certainly into and creative writing. Yes. So I, you know, I, I do what I do to be honest, I mean, I might intuitively connect with a spirit animal. But if I see if I come across, you know, a bird, animal or reptile or insect, I pay attention like, a few years ago, I opened my door in the morning, and there was a moth, it was like this big it was like, Gosh, 678 inches across, I'd never seen a moth that big, and it decided to die on my doorstep. And it was so beautiful. I forget the name of this breed of moth. And it's not usual in this part of the world because it's a bit chilly here at night. And moths and butterflies, typically a symbol of transformation. So that's how I took it. There's a great book I do want to mention called animals speak by Ted Andrews. And it lists a lot of animals it has great descriptions of what the spiritual messages might be. It also has a whole bunch of Native American kind of wisdom around that. And not just the animals. But how many of the animal did you see, you know, did you see one hawk? Or three? What direction were they flying in? You know, there's all kinds of other little subtleties that can be picked up here. And I use that as a starting point. It's not a you know, definitive, it's like okay, butterflies transformation. But what's my what, what message do I get from this particular butterfly, right now, is the same thing with body parts. You know, sometimes as humans, we get sick, we injure something. And so I use a book, you can heal your life by Louise Hay, as a starting point for that it has a table, it's a wonderful book, talking about life and healing. But at the back, it has an enormous long table with all the parts of the body and all the diseases and symptoms and it will give Okay, here's the physical thing but what's the spiritual thing beneath this physical disease or accident or whatever, and then he has an affirmation you could go play with to cure it, because I believe all illness comes from the Spirit, you know, comes from spiritual thing come from beliefs comes from emotions comes from trauma that hasn't been healed. Maybe it's from past lives, maybe. I mean, you know, this, you work on this, if you do health work, which I think you do, that really underlying these physical things is some kind of blockage of the flow of light and God and Chi in the person and it shows up as whatever it is a headache or indigestion or, you know, bad knees or cancer or whatever they brought up
Tricia Barker 53:06
and it's so fascinating when it's a past life connection because I've had friends who told me about some of their past life regressions and how it's cleared up and issue but then they know okay, it's like a war injury you know, something from a war you know, that they experienced in the past life the pain in the hip, or the pain in the leg will come back as a story from Dr. Holden and she was she couldn't understand you know why anytime she saw that on the television you know, it would make it worse but it was connected
Michaela Light 53:38
Oh, it's definitely drive remove you know, saw fatal sore wounds from people spear wounds. It's amazing and myself and you know, it's amazing what we have in our energy systems and you know, if you're if anyone listening has interest in you know, one of the ways to get in touch with is to to be more rested to meditate maybe fast. These are ways to get more in touch with spermicide and then be able to notice staff and then maybe work on it spiritually. And I one other thing I want to add here what I've noticed in the last year or two is that if I watch you know, videos, or I read things you know, maybe they're violent, maybe they're you know, dramatic, I will pick up that energy and it gets stuck in my body so I now can I kind of reduce my info diet you know, I'm careful what I take in but I'm also careful to flush out or clean out any information I've taken not individually pieces with me I just clean out my I know do a body scan look through all this my body and anything that feels icky. I'll do some healing and light work there. And that's definitely helped me in this time of the information overload because if we think of the food digest subsystem no one listening would think of constantly eating junk food and bad food but never going to the bathroom ever. Because like you bloat up and feel terrible. So we have to we take with food, we eat food, some of that food is nutritious we absorb it into ourselves. Some of it is just filler, you know, it's fiber or filler, it just needs to pass through. Some of it is actively toxic, and needs to be either eliminated or processed by our liver or whatever body organs do that processing the same with information, we take in a lot of information in modern society, some of it is useful can be assimilated into our consciousness, some of it is irrelevant, just needs to be let go of some of it is actively damaging, and needs to be healed and let go.
Tricia Barker 55:48
Yes, I couldn't agree more with everything that you said. And especially about like meditation, I think for me, the hawk reminds me that you know, flying free, the out of body experience flying free, this limitation is so much fun to get like to have that wide perspective where you can fly and have spirits we can fly, you know, and just bring that we are connected to flight as a beautiful, a beautiful thing that gives me personal joy. And I want to end with one question about joy. And that is, why is joy important for profits and business?
Michaela Light 56:29
Great question. Yes. So much in the past, in a society, you know, in previous decades, it was almost taboo to be having joy at work, you know, if you were your boss will come along and say, Hey, really doing the work here. And I think joy is our natural way of expressing light. And scientists have studied how much times people love young children, like less than three years old, they'll giggle and laugh three or 400 times every single day, adults maybe two or three times something wrong there. And so I think bringing more joy, more humor, you know, obviously, it needs to be appropriate humor. That's right. But you can smile, you can laugh, you can make a little joke, you can compliment someone you can focus on, you know, what would it take? We all do. tasks have different levels of joy. And you could classify level of joy, you could look at all your things you're planning to do today. And you could, you know, score them on a square score of zero to 10, where 10 is, wow, this is exciting, really exciting. And zero is oh my god, this is a dragon sucks. But then you can say for this thing tasks, that's maybe a five, what would it take for it to be a six level of joy? Oh, well, if I put some great music on while I did it that would help. Or what would it take to get from a six to a seven and you can bump these things up to more joy. And I remember reading a Tony Robbins thing where he was ticked off that he had to do the dishes at some retreat. And he was put on kitchen patrol KP duty, and but he made a way to make doing the dishes fun. And it's like he imagined he was cleaning off his chakras as he did each day, I forget what he did. But he's a very creative man. And we can do that with everything, you know, add more joy, and it becomes infectious. Our clients want to have that meeting with us because they know they're gonna have a good time. And the same way. It attracts great staff and they want to stay working with us. Or if we have a if we're an employee, and we have a job, it makes our co workers and boss want want us to be there. You know, and if there's an unfortunate decision that someone needs to leave the organization, they're less likely to let someone go who's joyful. Yeah, in my experience,
Tricia Barker 58:44
that makes that makes a lot of sense. And, you know, I'm, I'm not always that serious. And I know that takes people off guard, you know, especially in interviewing, I laugh a lot. I laugh, you know, at trauma, I think when people have been through a lot of trauma, we can have this laughter about it. And it's not really, you know, it's healing. It's like releasing in some way. So I think that there's something about the flow of life keeps flowing through you when you're joyful, you know, you're just bringing in more lights and sending out more light. So I agree. Well, thank you for talking with me. And I will put all your links below but you just tell me what's the best way for people to get in touch with you and find you out there?
Michaela Light 59:30
Sure. Well, the website is intuitive leadership mastery.com. You can either type that in or if you Google for it, I'm sure I'm very close to the top of the search results. My book you can find on Amazon where you can find it through my website. I also have a podcast on the website. So those are all great ways to find me and love to hear from anyone listening, you know in any feedback Do you have on things like share today or anything in my book that appeals to you?
Tricia Barker 1:00:05
Fascinating. Well, thank you so much and enjoy your day out there and group I know you'll spread light and joy.
Michaela Light 1:00:12
Thank you so much, Trisha.
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