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In this episode, I spoke with Isabel Hundt.
Michael: Starting off with Isabel's childhood and all the great intuition skill she had there and how the adults around treated her. And why emotional undevelopment in your business is costing you joy in profits.
How you can effectively connect with negative emotions in yourself, your staff and your clients. Why the new business model is faith driven for success. How emotional toxins cut your profits and how you can deal with them.
And we want to look at are you an empathy-warrior entrepreneur and what that means because a lot of us are and welcome Isabel.
Isabel: Thank you so much for having me. It's an honor.
Michael: Well it's exciting to have you here. So just folks who don't know who Isabel is. She wrote a book, ‘The Power of Faith Driven Success’. Empath-Warrior and emotion coach practitioner.
And she is a life coach transformative person, speaker and helps people understand their emotions and business and helps them conquer the world in whatever way their business needs to do that.
So amazing stuff and we're going to look in some of that in the interview today. So tell us about your childhood. It sounds like you had some really strong intuitive past when you were a child.
Isabel: Oh yeah! Actually it's interesting because honestly, I only realized it looking back. I didn't really realize it back then in the moment. When I grew up, I was watching… let me go back a bit.
You have to imagine like this little tiny town in East Germany in eighty three, that's when I was born and you literally know everyone. Everyone says hi and we have all this really awesome little bakeries and everything was just really mellow and laid back.
We were mostly outside as children and I always felt really connected to nature. We always wanted to be out but it was also the time the generation where we were mostly outside. I mean we left after breakfast and we didn't come home until dinner time and that was normal back then still. Nowadays it's not.
But for some reason I always had a different emotion or was going on. I remember telling my parents a couple times that I sometimes I feel like I can see the world and the snow globe and I can watch everyone, I can see how things are moving.
And when I was about five years old, my dad built a bunk bed himself and it was literally seven feet high; at least my part of the bed. And I wanted to help my mom and so I climbed up the high ladder and I wanted to make the bed and suddenly I lost control.
I couldn't hold myself and I fell all the way backwards. But I remember like it was yesterday that I was seeing myself falling backwards. I was still standing up there and as I was like what, who just fell? Who is that?
I saw my dad running and I was like, why is he running? I don't even know who that is down there. I'm still sitting up here. And I remember that the girl on the floor had trouble breathing and couldn't really move because I literally fell flat back on my back.
And at some point when he was holding me I was able to get back into my body and I started breathing again. And it was in such a split second that other people around me didn't really realize what was going on. But for me it was so real I literally looked at myself.
And then another time and that's actually a more interesting story. I had a head trauma and trust me when I say I did it the 04:21 [inaudible] way because nobody else would ever think of doing it that way because it was in the middle of the night in my own bed that I had a head trauma.
And where it happened, all I can remember is that I was sitting in my bed and I was screaming and I fell back into the pillow and from that time I couldn't move anymore. I just felt pain. I couldn't feel my back and it was just kind of a blackout in that moment.
My parents came in. At some point, they even asked the family doctor to come in the middle of the night because they couldn't move me by themselves and I still remember that I watched them. I was again able to leave my body. I watched them getting me off that high bunk bed to examine me, to see what really happened.
And later on at the hospital, they diagnosed a severe head trauma that injured my fourth, fifth and sixth vertebra. But nobody ever found out why or what happened. I still can't figure it out today because obviously, I don't think I would have had such injury if it would have been the wall. I can’t remember hitting the wall.
So it was kind of a weird situation. But now looking back, I know that the six vertebra actually carries the emotions from other people. So if it becomes too much of that I'm carrying around, then this can cause physical pain like a head trauma or even an injury of your spine.
And I just actually a couple months ago, I learned that. I was like well, that would make sense because around that same time was the Kosovo War going on. The conflict and I saw all those images on T.V. I got really freaked out by all the sirens on the T.V. and we saw the night region when they showed that.
And everything it's just appeared green and you just heard the sirens. And so every time I heard the sirens in our city which was normal especially when there was a fire going on, I just literally freaked out. I couldn't go back to sleep. I was freaking out.
And so I carried a lot of the weight of what was going on, what I've seen on T.V. and with other people. And as a child; I was probably seven. Your spine doesn't hold much weight therefore, it cracks before something happens.
You know and so that is the only explanation that I can figure out about that because now that I know that I am an empathy, this makes total sense and that's why I'm saying. I got a head trauma that is the way and I think if you one ever had a head trauma from falling into their bed.
That's a very unique way it's a pretty good accomplishment and I also one thing that I remember is that when people were crying or people were really upset, I started laughing. And I started to feel really, really bad about it.
And I was like I don't want to laugh. It sounds like taking them seriously, it sounds like I don't care. It was really like I feel like it's funny. But it wasn't really funny. Now I know that it was more a protective shield for me not to feel everyone else's pain.
And so I just turned it around and just laughed which helped me to stay sane, literally. And all my life I felt this urge that there's something that I need to be doing in this life. At twelve years old I had a dream. Like a prophetic dream that I would be going to the United States and start something.
I couldn't really identify what it was back then. I just saw myself speaking at a stage and a couple thousand people in front of me. And from that time on I also got really interested in psychology and 08:04 [seismology] especially that my dad just got his degree in that area as well after the walking down; since I grew up in East Germany.
And so my whole life I was moving towards that or walking in alignment with that dream. At least I thought I did because in between I also had a lot of ups and downs not of 08:25 [inaudible] of time to talk about that.
But I started slowly to drift into depression because I really didn't listen to my intuition until just about six years ago where… or seven years ago where I really learned and what it means to trust yourself, what it means to be an empath, what it means to trust your intuition and to really listen and find your own path and not just what everyone else has to say.
Michael: Wow! But what an amazing childhood and I think many people listening probably had their own interesting experience childhood. But I'm wondering how did the adults treat your having with intuition and out of body experience. Where they supportive? Was your church supportive?
Isabel: Well, I grew up Lutheran and so everyone who knows a Lutheran church; they're very strict, they're very like following the Bible. Every Sunday you literally fall asleep in church during the sermon because the sermon is not a half and it's literally just citing the Bible and that's one for you just like a aha, goodness I can't.
Yes, something like that was not very looked at very favorably. I don't think that was… even though even in the Bible talks about that some people are healers, some are prophets, some are apostles and I don't think they really understood what that truly means, what the capability of that involves.
And so I never talked much about that throughout my childhood. I was already the black sheep because I was the one who wanted to leave the country and I was the one who had different goals. I was at that point the only one who finished high school and then went to college.
So I always did a little bit of my own thing. Then I grew up with four younger siblings. So it's always something going on and my parents always trusted me. I mean when I came to the U.S. and got married, my parents hadn't even met my husband yet. All they said was, we trust you, you're always making the right decision. So they didn't really care.
And so I think it's with a similar with the way I grew up. But I think one thing that I really, really have to give my dad credit for, he never made me feel wrong about it. I think subconsciously he kind of understood but not consciously. He wasn't really aware of what he was really doing because he always helped me to express my emotions.
Like sometimes he helped me really tight and like okay, now you can punch me as much as you want. You have permission just to get it out. He always knew I was in my head and so he gave me some exercises to get out of my head.
So I think there was a sense of understanding and support but at the same time there was no knowledge really. So they didn't even realize it. It was more of an inner struggle for me. Okay, what is it that I feel? Why do I feel so much excited sometimes when there's no reason?
And so I kind of struggled through that on my own and honestly I myself pushed it away at some point because it didn't feel normal and if you wanted to belong you had to fit in. And so I just knew oh, I'm going to finish my high school diploma and then I'm going to go to college and you know find a job like that was always my goal and I'm sure God had a total different plan as I can tell now.
But that was just my goal and I was like okay well, maybe I just… maybe there's nothing different about me, maybe it's just not what I think because you don't read about it anywhere. It wasn't as open as it is now.
I mean I grew up in that communist state or a communist country and so everything is very strict and you have to listen and you have to follow the rules. You are being observed for twenty four seven.
So things like that, people can be controlled when you talk about intuition. So you don't talk about that in a communistic country because people need to be controlled. So I think at some point I just ignored it and just pushed it away and she's not working. It's fine I'm just going to be like everyone else.
Michael: And I think that's how a lot of people's intuition is. You know when they’re young children, less than three years old they’re very intuitive and in touch with this.
Isabel: Oh yes
Michael: And most people get rid of it that it's programmed out of them by high school or society or church or parents.
Isabel: I see that challenge. Yeah, I see that with my son. He's three and he's highly, highly intuitive and what I wanted to affirm is I need to help him to trust me that I trust him. So the more I…
I just helped him to understand what he felt emotionally even at a very young age. And just acknowledge that the more he felt like he could trust me and I trusted him so the more open he became in which he feels.
There were a lot of times where he always freaked out in the middle of the night is like, that there's a lion in my room, there's a lion. So we look at the meaning of the lion and helped him to understand what this could actually prophetically mean.
Some 13:46 [inaudible] okay, he’s a friend now, he's protecting me. But just being taken seriously and even at that age. Not just diminishing them as oh, the toddler, the little kid, they don't know any better.
I see that so often that people say oh, they're just manipulating you. You can just leave him here and no because I can pick up on some things that he's also picking up on and he's not ready to deal with that. He's emotionally not at this point where he can deal with people that have a very negative vibe around them or lives.
And so I wouldn't leave him there and he knew that I trusted him, that I believed him no matter if he was able to express it verbally or not. And he still knows that and I think it makes a huge difference.
Michael: Yes, it sounds like it does. So that’s something for people listening who want to improve their intuition. You know increasing their own trust in themselves and their trust in their own inner child.
They may have been 14:51 [inaudible] you know at a younger age. So there’s a lot of value in that. So let's move and look at emotional and underdevelopment that people have and how that might be costing them a lot of joy and profits in their business.
Isabel: Well, what I pretty much talk about in my business is that or I'm also following the work of Karla McLaren for those who know her she's amazing. And she also states that we are society are emotionally underdeveloped.
And what that means is that we are so sophisticated and so ahead with everything. If it's technology or even spirituality in a lot of ways. But emotionally, we are manipulated. If we see it through marketing, we see it in our society, what is accepted and what is not.
We box people in and label them real quickly just in the way they emotionally experience the world. So there are times where we're not allowed to experience fear. That's bad because we see it. Everyone is talking about how to overcome fear, how to push fear is sighed to be more successful.
When I'm sitting I'm like, why would you do that? It's just something your body is telling you. So, we avoid things that anger. You can't be angry, how dare you? You need to change your behavior, your attitude.
And all those things that are so manipulative and so judgmental that we forget that who we actually are; our emotional being is literally the foundation of what we can accomplish in life. And the less emotionally engaged we are, the less connected we are with other people, the less we actually listen to people.
And everyone knows the connection with other people drives your success in business and the life in general. So, if we are underdeveloped emotionally, there's also a disconnect between people and we tend to judge more. We have stronger emotions.
I'm not saying I'm not opinionated, I am. But I'm also aware of it and on what level and in what stage. But I think that is where it really costs a lot. The connection with people drives our success and that drives our profit. So if we are emotionally not aware of what’s going on, we lose profit.
Michael: That makes a lot of sense to me. What about for those of us listening who are leaders and disregarding what you're followers are feeling? Tell us a bit about that.
Isabel: Well, at some point your followers wouldn’t feel seen or heard or understood. If we continue talking down on people especially we say okay, I'm going to bring up an example. If you for example have a company, you're the C.E.O., you’re the leader of this company and you have a great team underneath you near.
Some people that you would consider as emotionally sensitive. You're too emotional, you need to let go of that. Then there is a problem because that judgment doesn't allow them to be fully them and to really discover their talents and their skills that they can use then to create a better connections in there for more profit.
So, when we look at companies, the easier way or the better way to deal with that is; and I teach that with parents and I teach that with everyone else. There is nothing wrong with you just because you feel a specific emotion. Even if you're depressed or you have excited or you have panic attacks or if something is going on, it doesn't mean that there's something wrong with you.
So the question could be; instead of oh, you're too sensitive just get over it is, what do you need? So for people to feel valued, to really be able to follow you the question is, what do you actually need? How can I support you? Why do you experience here and why does that there are certain triggers that show up for you? Is there something that we can make it a little easier on you?
So if you don't pay attention to the people that follow you, you also don't pay attention to their needs and if these needs are not met, they won't follow you anymore. It's really that simple. So as a leader, you are in service to other people. And it's not about you and your power and your position really per se.
It's about how you can serve the people that are following you and I think that's a lot of times when people forget and that also is including the emotional state. What do you need? You’re sad, you grief, you are angry. What do you need?
And that's why it's so important to change our relationship to emotions instead of demonizing emotions to value them and to always see the positive and what it can show you and how it can guide you instead of how it creates a hindrance or an obstacle within the environment that you find yourself.
And I think as a leader, I mean it's almost it considers it emotional intelligence but it's just that simple switch instead of a what’s wrong with you to ask, what do you need? And people start to feel seen, they need they feel heard, they feel understood, someone cares and many people care. They want to follow you.
Michael: It sounds very deep and perhaps one of the most important people in your business to listen to be emotions all when that negative. And I’m putting negative in quotes that you know the airing of sadness is yourself.
Michael: So many business people don't listen to their own emotions and then how can you be listening to everyone else’s.
Isabel: Exactly; especially in the position of leadership you we have identified leadership as powerful, firm, strong. Don't show emotions. You have to appear successful no matter what that looks like for you. You have to appear as an authority and the way we want to be perceived keeps us from truly acknowledging who we are. The authenticity is missing in that point and people don't connect very well with people who are inauthentic.
Michael: I would say they don't connect at all if you're not authentic.
Michael: They might obey now but they're not going to connect and they’re not going to give their best.
Isabel: Yeah, if it comes down to it, if there ever is going to be something happening against that specific leader, they will turn their head and go the other way. Obeying never creates a following. It creates people who are doing what you say for as long as they need. Till they don't need any more then they're just going to go.
Michael: What about this new business model you talk about in your book? ‘Pace Driven Success’. Tell us about that.
Isabel: I think… and that's something that I was able to relate to in specially when you’re an entrepreneur it's really hard to find your own voice because you hear so much. People are like oh, this is how you need to do it to get in six figures in six months or seven figures in three months even and I can't even hear it anymore. It's just ‘eeeere’ to me.
It's like okay, can we talk about something else? But still I bought into that hive. I spent tens of thousands of dollars and bought into those programs and I didn't trust myself. I just thought oh, this is what I need to do as an entrepreneur. This is what I have to learn.
And while there certainly are things that we need to learn and that we need to understand just the principles if it's like oh, how much money do I get in, how do I budget my money you know, those basic things. But when it comes to really growing your business the fastest way to get there and the most fulfilling way to get to the success that you envision for yourself is to really trust yourself.
And I did not do that and looking back every time I did not trust myself was the time when things just went totally wrong or I fell into a depressive phase or just really experience anxiety. I didn't have any money so at some point I hired a coach, a different coach.
I always worked with my own courage but then I hired a spiritual coach and she's like Isabel, most entrepreneurs are renegades and you certainly are a renegade. You will never do the things anyone else does. Yes, it just doesn't resonate with you and you need to learn to really trust your intuition, have faith.
And so for me faith is not based on religion. While religion can support that understanding or faith obviously but in general to me, that means the knowing, the deep knowing and understanding and trusting in the way that you're going is the way that you're supposed to.
Even if that means there are some distractions in the way or a Sunday tourists, it's still all part of your journey. Something that you have to learn to get to where you want to go because it might be something that you're down the road are supposed to teach others.
Michael: So, that sounds to you some of your words. You be living a purpose driven life in business instead of a proper unintentional driven life and business.
Michael: And that's really going against the American dream and traditional model where you know it is a profit driven life. It isn't attention or fame driven life.
Isabel: Yes, everything is about fame. Who is going to have the most followers, who is going to have the most likes, who is going to be on the most stages. And honestly I admit sometimes it's like, aha, it would be nice to be on that stage or talk with that person.
But I really always have to remind myself if it's meant to be, it will happen. I'm just continuing really falling and stepping into what I'm called to and it may not always be comfortable. And most of the time it's actually really, really uncomfortable because intuitively what I know to do is not ever anything that I really want to do because it's not comfortable.
It feels good to do it. Like I feel this oh yeah, it feels right. I should do that. No, no, that sounds like I'm not going to do it. But if we really step into that, and some people would say that’s fear. I personally don't agree with that quite in that point.
But if we really go and stay always outside of our comfort zone eventually, we’ll get to the goal that we really dreamed about, the vision and it might even and most likely it will be even better than what you could ever envision for your life.
But that is when the trust comes in and we see it in our society especially with younger people that's why I like to work with them a lot is that they don't just take a job anymore. They take a job for the paycheck. They really want to be able to relate to the mission of the company and if they don't feel like they can be a part of something bigger, they won't stay from very long or they won't even start.
And that's why I say we're shifting from profit driven to more purpose driven. I think younger generations also have more of an understanding of unity that older generations just the way they were brought up lack. And if they don't care too much about how you look like, what your background is they just connect.
And I think that's part of because intuitively we know that we're all connected and as children we know that. And I think nowadays we're in a time where even younger generations are not around their parents as much anymore. I mean I grew up with my mom being home so I had there's a role model.
But nowadays so many parents both have to work so they're pretty much independent at a very young age. So they have more access to, they're not as influenced by opinions, they kind of have to figure out their own thin. And so that inner knowing even if it's consciously not there or able but subconsciously it is that they feel that connection and that purpose.
They really want to make a difference and that is really where I can see that purpose driven and faith driven success coming through in the generations to come. But we also see a lot of changes in older generations already that adapt to that feeling and knowing and understanding.
Michael: So I think that's a really important point as to about not just to hiring where if you want to hire the best people you really do need to provide purpose as well as other things you give your staff. But it also applies to reaching your goal customers.
You know customers would rather buy a service or product that has meaning to them and makes them feel part of something bigger rather than buying some brands that doesn’t have that.
Michael: And I think it also applies just as importantly to ourselves as entrepreneurs. If we don't want to get burned out then having purpose in our business really helps with that.
Isabel: I agree
Michael: So talking of burned out, let's talk now about emotional talks and how they could be cutting your profits. So tell us about that.
Isabel: As you mentioned I'm an emotional 29:18 [inaudible] parishioner. So what that means I am able to release trapped emotions. I learned a lot of the signs of like I get too much into that which you teach along. But what we know is that everything is energy and so are emotions.
So, if we understand that they're okay. So it was around a whole life we experience emotions and often we experience emotions from other people. With empaths it's even worse in that sense that we take on a lot of the emotional burden from other people.
But and in most cases we don't know what to do with it or how to even live through and should just be with emotions. Again because we categorize them in bad or good or bad or good and evil and you shouldn't and you should.
So what happens? Everything is free flowing. As you know everything is energy. So emotions are the same. So if we don't want to release them, they get stuck in our body. So that means physical changes happening throughout our body. We say that a lot of people who experience 30:21 [lower] problems actually have more of an anger problem.
They store a lot of anger in their liver and a lot of the burden. We say that especially empath or very visual and aural driven so that means they literally carry the weight and the burden of the world on their shoulder. So they tend to have a lot of neck problems and shoulder problems and they tend to hunch over a lot.
So we see all those emotional things, emotions going on in our body and if we're not feeling physically well, we can't really create a spiritual connection. And when we can’t create a spiritual connection, we can't really intuitively follow our path. We just literally exist instead of living.
So when I release trapped emotions with clients and I can do that from anywhere I created because one of my gifts is seeing colors around people and also sometimes I vision. So I'm able to really connect with them and able to do that through over a distance.
But once those trapped emotions are gone it's… For example for me, I had trapped emotions that were responsible for my money block. I had a money block for so long as I was like oh, I think there's some trapped emotions. Well, let's test it. Obviously, there were quite a few and once I released them it was interesting.
Suddenly, I had so many emails like hey, I want to work with you or what does it take for me to sign up for this class or for the session but how it's doing on. So you can tell when emotions getting trapped, they become toxic in your body because the energy is no longer free flowing and it poisons.
Literally poisons your body and your mind and you get stuck. But if you release it suddenly, does everything starts to move. I had a client send me an email saying, I have never felt so happy in a long, long time.
She suffers from depression. So physical pain was gone that she had felt so much over the last couple months and it was just interesting. And again the way you feel, the way you're motivated to even do something or even connect with people.
If you're not on a healthy level with your physical and your spiritual body, you're again are not able to connect to other people and that's where your profit is, with the connection with other people. So the emotional toxins if it's from other people that you're experience again because everything is connected, everything is energy. We know that now scientifically.
Everything is moving. So if you take on too much and you don't release it, it’s like water, like a pond to a stagnant and at some point bacteria is growing and destroys the whole pond life and nothing can grow and you die.
Michael: Wow! So, what are some ways you can protect yourself from toxic and negative energy and emotion?
Isabel: For one you have to be aware. If you're really aware that you take on a lot of your personal stuff you can really protect yourself with but a from. But you can create awareness. Oh, this is what I feel, anger.
Okay, I'm acknowledging that I'm angry. What happened or what was said that created that anger? What really triggered me truly? So, where do I have to reset my boundaries anew? Where do I have to pay attention where people cross my boundaries? Same with fear. But when it comes on the outside, when you really want to protect yourself energetically and emotionally not taking on other people's stuff.
Every morning at five thirty, I do meditation outside with the sun raised and every time I just say to myself I am intentionally letting go of all that no longer serves me and all that is not mine that is being sent back to whoever it belongs to. And just that intention creates a different energetic vibration within your body and you’re able to not get attached to whatever was trying to attach itself.
But what you can also do is grounding and I know you know about that. So a lot of things right now even I'm standing on an earthing mat. Every time I work with my clients, every time I do any kind of work for my business, I'm standing on my earthing mat and because I need to be grounded to not to take on everyone's.
It's almost like you free flowing. When you're free flowing, you have every molecule that you can just hits you in the head. But if you're actually grounded you can direct yourself, you are more in control with what's happening, you can feel it and you can say okay, that's not mine. It doesn't make any sense, I'm not taking on that's not mine.
But what you can also do is each morning before you leave your house, you can envision like a light bubble around you. Don't make it a dark color because that will keep you from connecting with people. But make it a light color and again I know that you know that.
Filling it up with light or even a purple color that is the spiritual connection and just set the intention. Today, I am emotion energetically protected. I will not take on other people's stuff. I am safe and I can trust myself and others. And just by that intuition or by that intention it helps you to take less of the toxins.
And obviously there are also simple ways like eat healthy. Don't eat the crap food that adds more toxins to your body because then your body is so busy trying to keep you alive that you cannot focus spiritually on anything but staying alive.
And so being aware of what you eat, what you put in your body. Doesn’t mean that you can’t splurge every now and then I do too. I love ice cream. I love chocolate. But you have to have a balance. My husband is a natural 36:45 [inaudible] We grow most of our food ourselves. We don't have medications. It's just something to be aware of. What we put in our body that also creates toxins.
I actually have a freebie on my website. It's called ‘Five Simple Ways to Protect Yourself from Negativity’. It's really simple ways to use every day. It's even one of them is a protection prayer that you can use, it's great. I've heard some of the people that got it like I’m doing it every single day and I can totally feel different. I don't feel as heavy when I come home. It feels better. So those are different ways to protect yourself.
Michael: Great! Well we’ll put the link to that ‘Five Simple Ways to Protect Yourself from Negativity’. It's on your website, isabelhundt.com; in the show notes of this episode.
So you mentioned being empath and I know you have a 37:42 [inaudible] empathy-warrior entrepreneur. Tell us a bit about that.
Isabel: Well we talked about it earlier where you said, I think every entrepreneur is somewhat of an empath and that well I think every empath, every entrepreneur could be more of a warrior because we all have a mission. We have a goal to make a difference and to create something revolutionary, we’re being out there.
But the empath itself are usually the people that rather want to hide behind the couch or even under the couch; that's a little safer. People who like okay, know people are just going to roll over me, too overwhelming, don't want to deal with it, forget it, I’m not being out there.
But then there are the empath-warriors. Those are the intro-extroverts and I consider myself one of them. I easily could just hide and say okay, I'm just going to find something to do where we don't have anything to do with people. I would be fine. But then there's this fire in my heart was like nope, you have something else to do. You have a message to share and it needs to be out there, it needs to be in a bigger way and I never could lead go of that.
There were so many situations where we're just saying okay God, I'm quitting this whole thing. I'm done with entrepreneurship. It's not mine forget it. Why am I even doing that? I shouldn't even care. I should just be mom and wife that's it. And then every morning, I get an email or something that just reminds me of okay, here this is why I do it or why I go back to it.
So the empath is easy to hide but the hard communicates with us so clearly that we can't hide from it and so the warrior inside of us really wants to just be out there. And I call empath-warriors often there also world visionaries who can feel a lot of what's going on worldwide and that is very significant and how we create our businesses but also our life.
Michael: That makes a lot of sense that we both can feel what's going on and we want to change. You know we have a purpose to change how the world is.
Michael: That’s a powerful thing. So, you obviously use your intuition a lot in your business now. Although you didn't a few years ago. Why are you proud to use your business intuition?
Isabel: Because it makes things easier. It really makes things easier when you get to a point where you can just trust, where you can just say okay, no that doesn't feel right, I trust it. That is something else in store for me. It's okay, I can let go of it. You don't get attached to everything. You don't feel down as much when things don't work out. You can just still move on.
I think using my intuition has shown me a lot of good example. Just recently I took a couple people who are speaking coaches and I talked to one who I really admire for his work and he's out okay, this is how much it would be like oh it's so much money. I don't think that feels good.
And I was tuning in meditation and I just heard and now it's like I really want to do it. I really want to work with him and I just trust him like okay, no it's not time for me. Then a few days later I met another warrior and she set the same price and I’m like oh, that’s not that much it feels really good and I said to her I'm going to make it happen. I'm going to make it work. It just feels right.
And I did that and suddenly I get a new clients and I get inquiries here. I’m like oh yeah. I trusted my intuitions everything else is coming together. So that's why I'm so proud of really being able to use my intuition because it doesn't set me off as fast as if I would not. It's almost like okay, I can trust in the process, it's okay. Even if I don't see the results right away, I can still trust.
Michael: Wow! So you know I would agree with that and I think every entrepreneur would benefit from using their intuition in that business.
Isabel: Oh yeah
Michael: And using it not just privately but using it openly so inspires the staff and clients and vendors as well because it’s going to bring them more joy and more profits and cut out on their stress.
So here's my question for you on this. What would it take to make business intuition more open in use this year?
Isabel: Oh, that’s a good question because I think using your intuition in business is such a personal choice. If someone is not ready to really take a deep look inside, they can’t really lead with intuition. People have to be willing to do the work for themselves to be able to use their intuition and then impact other people on a different much different and bigger scale.
And so I think for me, it's what would it take to continuously talking about it. I think the more people hear of other people that are successful that go that route, they're more open to hearing about it.
But in the end, it’s really is a personal choice. If someone is not ready to go that path, to face literally face their demons and to face whatever keeps them stuck or even if they don't feel like they are stuck if that's the case then you know you actually have to play a much, much bigger game than which you're already playing.
And so people are not ready to face that, they won't even be open to the idea of intuitive leadership. I think they need to see it in examples and how it really works and how it really creates a difference in those people who use it.
Michael: Those are great inspired ideas you have there. So if people wanted to find you online, how would they do that?
Isabel: I am the person who likes to have it simple. You just have to go to my website isabelhundt.com. A lot of people forget the ‘b’. In there you can literally find everything; how to connect with me on social media, my services, all my other interviews and blog posts and anything that you really want. The link to my book is all on my website. So people don't have to go through the whole world wide web to figure something out where they confront me. So that's the easiest way. Just to go to my website isabelhundt.com.
Michael: And we'll put that link in the show notes on the intuitive leadership mastery website along with your Twitter, Facebook and LinkedIn addresses and your book. So it's there in one place.
And also for people listening if you want me to ask questions, our guests. So you have questions for me there's a place you can record on the website, on the podcast page to send questions into the podcast. So, I’ll appreciate your feedback or comments.
So I appreciate you coming on Isabel. This has been really an amazing deep dive in to success and intuition and connecting with your emotions instead of hiding from them. Well, thanks so much for being on the show.
Isabel: Thank you so much for having me. As you can tell I always love talking about it.